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Was playing a game at GW today and had this issue come up.

My opponent had a load of banshees in his wave serpent. It was backed up completely against his edge of the board. He wanted them to disembark and all move 6-8 inches on one side of the vehicle (and assault later). I didn't think it would work because I thought he had to disembark everyone first (so that some would end on the other side of the vehicle) before moving. Basically he wanted to take them one at a time and move them 8 inches.

The judge said he couldn't do that, which I think is correct. But then he said he could pivot the Wave Serpent "for free" and let the Banshees all disembark from the other side of the Serpent. Pivoting doesn't count as movement, so they'd still be ok to assault. I was ok with that, but then he also said the Wave Serpent would be able to move later in his turn since it hadn't moved, only pivoted. I thought that if it pivoted, that's fine, it wouldn't count as movement, but its "turn" for moving was now over.

So
a) can you disembark and move one model at a time? (I think no)
b) can you pivot and disembark and still assault? (I think yes)
c) can the pivoting vehicle move after the disembark? (I think no)

Killjoy00 wrote:a) can you disembark and move one model at a time? (I think no)

No. Each model is placed within 2" of the vehicle, and within coherency. Spelt out in the first paragraph of the disembarking rules on page 67.

b) can you pivot and disembark and still assault? (I think yes)

No. Specifically forbidden in the first bullet point on page 67.

c) can the pivoting vehicle move after the disembark? (I think no)

No. Whilst pivoting on the spot by itself doesn't count as moving any distance, it is still done during the vehicle's movement. Once you have moved the vehicle, you can't go on to another unit and then return and re-move the vehicle. (Second paragraph on page 11)

All these crappy mechdar players giving us a bad reputation. tsk tsk tsk.

I don't think it is possible to answer it more than insaniak did!

Thanks. I was 2/3.

The Mechdar player hadn't played a game in 5 years, and I'm still relatively new, so we were doing the best we could.

The real travesty is the red shirt "judge" - at one point he said (yes this is an exact quote) - "I'm pretty sure he can do that because that's is one of the skimmer advantages." I turned to the skimmer part of the rulebook and, after a little reading, told him I may not be 100% whether he can or not, but I'm 100% sure it isn't because he's a skimmer.

Killjoy00 wrote:Thanks. I was 2/3.

The Mechdar player hadn't played a game in 5 years, and I'm still relatively new, so we were doing the best we could.

The real travesty is the red shirt "judge" - at one point he said (yes this is an exact quote) - "I'm pretty sure he can do that because that's is one of the skimmer advantages." I turned to the skimmer part of the rulebook and, after a little reading, told him I may not be 100% whether he can or not, but I'm 100% sure it isn't because he's a skimmer.

Ugh, I lost the 'Ard Boyz because of the peanut galleries rulings. And the cheating guy, that also screwed me over.

Always ask the TO to point out the relvent rules in the rulebook, just so in fourteen years when your looking back over old times you can say to the kids "And he couldn't point it out in the rulebook. Damn judge making the rules up!!"

Oh I asked him. He had no interest in the rulebook. He was like, look whatever, I don't really care. The other redshirt had no interest in judging at all and had dragged this one over.

Why run a tourney at your store if you have no interest in it?

$

It was free entry

Killjoy00 wrote:It was free entry

Free tournament leading to a 100% increase on day to day sales is still $.

Killjoy00 wrote:Why run a tourney at your store if you have no interest in it?

Because you were told you had to?

insaniak wrote:

Killjoy00 wrote:Why run a tourney at your store if you have no interest in it?

Because you were told you had to?

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