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Hi, a few questions.

-Are TROOPS specifically the only thing that can capture objectives? Like when some HQ allow X to be taken as troops. Obviously stuff like Dreads can't, but what about other infantry?
-Mad Dok Grotsnik says he can give Cybork Parts to any model in the army for 5 points. I read that to mean literally any infantry model, not just the unit he has joined (if any).
-Do MegaNobs get 4 Klaw attacks and 5 on a charge? Or is it 3 and the armor includes it in the profile?
-I'm a little fuzzy on Mob Rule leadership tests. They call it a mob, but is that just the...infantry in your entire deployed army? I don't see any distance rules for it. What about guys in reserve? What about vehicles? Or does none of that matter and it's just a unit, making it really only valuable for larger squads?
-Painboyz have their own entry but I only see them included as a "captain" for Nobz and Flashgitz. Yet on page 69 bottom right they show a Weirdboy walking neary a Painboy -- I know it's only models, but they are usually pretty right on about that. And that Painboy would have to be part of a larger unit, or it would have had to be all killed as I understand it.
-Mad Dok can be attached to a unit. So he could be attached to Meganobz. So he could give them all cybork parts and him being there makes them fearless and gives them FNP(!). Making them about the toughest infantry that I know of. But they have to "charge" at full speed the closest enemy. Can they still get on transports? How about at the start of the game? Cuz they're gonna charge awful slow. Is the unit forced to run? And do you have to measure which the closest unit is and from where, the Dok?

Thanks.

DukeRustfield wrote:Hi, a few questions.

-Are TROOPS specifically the only thing that can capture objectives? Like when some HQ allow X to be taken as troops. Obviously stuff like Dreads can't, but what about other infantry?

Yes- so, Nobs (even Nob bikers) taken as Troops by way of a warboss can control objectives.

-Mad Dok Grotsnik says he can give Cybork Parts to any model in the army for 5 points. I read that to mean literally any infantry model, not just the unit he has joined (if any).

Yep- you can have an all cybork (or even cy-grot!) army if you want.

-Do MegaNobs get 4 Klaw attacks and 5 on a charge? Or is it 3 and the armor includes it in the profile?

They have 3 attacks base and get +1 on the charge, for a total of 4.

-I'm a little fuzzy on Mob Rule leadership tests. They call it a mob, but is that just the...infantry in your entire deployed army? I don't see any distance rules for it. What about guys in reserve? What about vehicles? Or does none of that matter and it's just a unit, making it really only valuable for larger squads?

It's just based on a single unit. Ld = number of orks (including attached ICs), to a maximum of 10. If there are more than 10, the unit is then fearless.

-Painboyz have their own entry but I only see them included as a "captain" for Nobz and Flashgitz. Yet on page 69 bottom right they show a Weirdboy walking neary a Painboy -- I know it's only models, but they are usually pretty right on about that. And that Painboy would have to be part of a larger unit, or it would have had to be all killed as I understand it.

Except for the Mad Dok SC, there aren't any 'independent' painboys (there were in previous editions). Weirdboys are ICs, though, so may join a unit with a painboy.

-Mad Dok can be attached to a unit. So he could be attached to Meganobz. So he could give them all cybork parts and him being there makes them fearless and gives them FNP(!). Making them about the toughest infantry that I know of. But they have to "charge" at full speed the closest enemy. Can they still get on transports? How about at the start of the game? Cuz they're gonna charge awful slow. Is the unit forced to run? And do you have to measure which the closest unit is and from where, the Dok?

He can give the MANZ cybork bodies without joining them (indeed, some argue that MANZ are only really playable if you take Mad Dok to give them the 5++ save). Joining him to the unit does make them fearless and give them FNP. They can still board transports, but take up two spots. Read up on the dedicated transport rules for what vehicles they may start in-- if the vehicle is bought for them specifically, or a H support BW, they can start embarked. If it's someone else's ride (a unit of trukk boyz, eg) then they have to embark on it later.

As for measuring, yes, you do need to measure the closest unit. Since his special rule is conferred to the unit he is with, you need to measure from whichever model is closest to an enemy unit.

Thanks.

You're welcome!

-In standard missions troops are the only thing that can capture objectives(in planetstrike anything can) This includes other choices made into troops via certain characters/special rules
-That is right grotsnik grants any unit cybork bodies for +5 points/model
-I am not sure where you are getting the extra attack on meganobz, they have 3A in their profile and only 1 CCW(Klaw)
-Every unit is called a Mob, such as a boys mob or a nobz mob, this is where Mob rule comes in at the unit level.
-Painboyz are upgrade characters for their respective units
-Grotsnik+meganobz do in fact move as fast as possible towards the nearest unit(and move as if in difficult terrain), they can get in a transport but there is some contention as to whether that transport must then move towards the nearest enemy model as well. The need not run(as this would normally prevent assaulting) and may shoot. At the start of the game they may be deployed anywhere, not right on the frontline(any other rule would mean if you go first you could not place them). Closest unit is measured from the closest model in your unit to the closest model in the enemy unit.

1) Units are troops if bought as troops. Warbikers, nobz, anything that can be taken as a troops choice can score unless otherwise forbidden (like vehicles).

2) Any model, just as you read it.

3) Includes what? 3 base, 4 on charging.

4) Read your army lists. Ork squads are called mobs. Orks can have some units number 30 models.

5) Read the text - the Weirdboy is leading the nobz into battle. He's an IC and has joined a Nobz mob.

6) GWs FAQ suggests it would be OK to board a transport if it doesn't stop you from assaulting AND you use it to get closer to that closest target. Nothing says you must run but it would usually be a waste not to, especially if you have a Waagh on the way. I'd measure from the closest unit member but who knows.

1) To add to this if a unit is specifically stated as "scoring", such as Pedro Kantor making Sternguard Scoring (Elites choice, and stay as Elites) then they are, indeed, scoring.

Remember, if we take the big mek, the humble Deff Dread is scoring too.

S_P

Space_Potato wrote:Remember, if we take the big mek, the humble Deff Dread is scoring too.

S_P

No, it's not. It's a vehicle and nothing in it's rules say taht it negates that qualifier. The only scoring vehicle currently in the game is a DA Landspeeder. Cause it's codex says it's scoring.

don_mondo wrote:

Space_Potato wrote:Remember, if we take the big mek, the humble Deff Dread is scoring too.

S_P

No, it's not. It's a vehicle and nothing in it's rules say taht it negates that qualifier. The only scoring vehicle currently in the game is a DA Landspeeder. Cause it's codex says it's scoring.

Bingo.

Yup, but a common misconception - and that has broken many an Ork general's heart. I try to notice early-on if someone is lurking their dread near an objective "Hey, buddy - it can protect it, but it won't score!"

My bad, I assumed it could because the Big Mek profile states:
(Quoted from ork codex)
"A big mek allows one Deff Dread to be taken as a troops choice"

I assumed it was all troops units that were scoring.

I have made a mistake, and have just found the part in the rulebook that says vehicles cannot score. (p90 if anyone wants to know)

S_P