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Playing a game against my friend's Blood Angels he takes a squad of 3 Sanguinary Priests. He states that he can split up the squad pregame and put them with other squads because of the first bullet rule on page 83. I disagree because it says that independent character's can leave a squad only during the movement phase (page 48 bullet 3 on right side). Which is correct?

Thanks in advance,

The Weasel King

the weasel king wrote:Playing a game against my friend's Blood Angels he takes a squad of 3 Sanguinary Priests. He states that he can split up the squad pregame and put them with other squads because of the first bullet rule on page 83. I disagree because it says that independent character's can leave a squad only during the movement phase (page 48 bullet 3 on right side). Which is correct?

Thanks in advance,

The Weasel King

How would ICs join drop podding units then? He is correct if I remember.

You can have ICs join units in deployment.

He is correct. They're not even necessarily a unit at the start of the game.

Your opponent is right. I'm sure someone with the codex on hand can tell you why.

HFG is right, but with some addition.

If you place a unit in reserve, by the book, you have to say what that unit is made of per the rules on page 94.

You cant have a squad of IC's defined as a squad placed into reserve, then separate them out to fit into the other vehicles after that declaration.

He says that he can split up the squad pregame into 3 deep striking terminator squads so that all 3 squads can deep strike with feel no pain. Does this make sense with what you are saying? What I got from what you said was that they all have to be declared as a squad of 3 ICs instead of 3 terminator squads with 1 IC in each (when taken as a single elite choice).


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Alright, well sorry for this but my friend just reread his codex and it says squad size of 1 but 3 can be taken as a single elite choice which makes the argument a moot point. He wins, not even based on his originally quoted rule, but on another rule he overlooked. Thanks for the quick responses though.

The Weasel King

For future, Your first point is dead on the money.

If i had 3 IC's in a squad, i can during the deployment phase split them up and allocate them to other units before deployment.

I then say those units are going to be held in reserve, inclusive of the unit that was there.

IC's can be joined to any unit before the game unless there is a rule that says otherwise. (EG IC's and Bodyguards)

They are not a Squad they are 1-3 independent characters purchased in 1 elite slot.

Space Wolf Wolf Guard However are a Squad that can be broken up pregame to join other squads, of course they are not ICs so whatever.

You didn't say, but I thought worth mentioning. If the 3 Priests were to join DSing Terminators, they must be in Terminator armour themselves.

Sanguinary priests aren't purchased as a unit comprised of 1-3 models, you're allowed to take 3 selections of the unit "Sanguinary priest" and have it only occupy a single elite foc slot.

Completely different from wolfguard who are a unit of models that has a rule allowing them to be split up during deployment.

You are wrong.

Sanguinary Priests are not bought in units fo 3 models, they are bought in units of one model, three times per FoC slot.

lol...

Ah, the "You are Wrong" was aimed at the OP, not you!

This is why I need to keep Quoting!

oh ... well yea i was gonna say ... lol.

I thought my point was pretty concisely made o.O lol

Quotes are awesome

Off-topic: Say I have 3 Sanguinary Priest, if they all die, then each is one KP?

I'm sure that in that situation its 3 KP's but I just want to make sure.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:Off-topic: Say I have 3 Sanguinary Priest, if they all die, then each is one KP?

I'm sure that in that situation its 3 KP's but I just want to make sure.

Yes, they each count as a KP.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:Off-topic: Say I have 3 Sanguinary Priest, if they all die, then each is one KP?

I'm sure that in that situation its 3 KP's but I just want to make sure.

They are 3 separate units, so yes, they are 3KP.

Just to follow up on that, the rules for separate units are on pg 92 of the BRB.

Also in a standard game you can't have 3 terminator squads and 3 sanguinary priests (4 Elite slots)

I presume you can attach 2 to a unit of 10 and 1 to a unit of 5 and combat squad the unit of 10 each with an attached priest when they deepstrike though?