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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 18:07:51
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Question in the title really. It seems that in the run-up to this book everyone got rather excited about havng loads of different missions to play, especially as they were 'themed' for a particular army. However, since its release, I've rarely, if ever, seen anyone play a game out of this book; the vast majority of people are more than happy to stick with the default ones n the 40k rulebook.
My personal belief is that Battle Missions didn't really bring anything new to the game to make it a viable investment. Pretty much all the missions are an expansion on the original 3, with no overtly new or novel ideas included to make it worth the time or effort.
What do you guys think? Do any of you regularly use the Battle Missions book? If so what mission do you like the most/find is the most popular?
Regards,
L. Wrex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 18:27:18
Subject: Re:Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 18:32:23
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Sister Vastly Superior
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It's pretty popular in this manor, but I can't say I care for it.
I was excited about Clash of Heroes until I learned what it actually is, now it seems rather pointless.
Killteams takes as long to play as a normal game, Only with much less creativity, or tactics.
Yeah - Battlemissions was a sound idea, but the actual, y'know, battle missions leave me cold.
EDIT - and would it have killed them to include all the rules necesary for each mission - q.v. any of the dozens of posts on this and other forums asking for help on Killteams.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 18:42:44
Subject: Re:Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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1st Lieutenant
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The problem with it is there a very few 'new' missions, lots of them are the same, or slight variations, proper 'new' missions would have been amazing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 18:48:45
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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I have played many kill team missions and like the way they play. I prefer it for a quick game. My son and I jumped into our LGS, set up, played, and packed up in about 45 minutes to an hour.
The only other Battle Mission I have played is the Surprise Attack mission for the SM. My orks had the middle set up on the board and held out pretty well but succumbed in the end because I couldn't take out his land Raider.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 18:59:47
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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The problem is that the missions are horribly imbalanced in many cases and can be broken further by building specific armies to capitalize upon mission objectives. Soooo.... what's the point? We may use them in a campaign of some kind, and the off Kill Team marathon, but other than that, it really was lacking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 20:17:11
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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My friends and I have used several of the missions. Most of them aren't very inspired, but a few of them (like "first contact") have very interesting mechanics.
I also took some of the mission mechanics and combined them with some original mechanics to make my own mission for a narrative campaign:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/296653.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 20:25:51
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I use it alot, especially the kill team mission at the back of the book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 20:43:33
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Inspiring Icon Bearer
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We use it often, But army lists are made before the random missions are determined.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 21:02:16
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I'm not sure what it is, though the title gives a bit of a clue.
I've never looked at Apocalypse either, or Planet Strike.
Cities of Death is nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 21:42:21
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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I love them.
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DarkHound wrote:Stop it you. Core has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. Core, and its consumption of life, has become a well-oiled machine. Core has changed. ID tagged soldiers carry ID tagged weapons, use ID tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefield control. Everything is monitored, and kept under control. Core has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control. All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield, controls history. Core has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, war... becomes routine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 22:01:34
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
New Jersey
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The Kill Teams mission is a real hit in our store. We have held one kill teams tournament, and will be holding another one next month.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 22:35:07
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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I use the BM book all the time for my Planetary Empires campaign. We use the random mission table at start of book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/27 22:44:01
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Azezel wrote:Killteams takes as long to play as a normal game, Only with much less creativity, or tactics.
You take just as long to play kill tams as you would a normal game? What point levels are your normal games?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/28 00:15:34
Subject: Re:Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Defending Guardian Defender
Bristol, UK
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I've had some really good games using the battle missions book, both playing the correctly themed for our armies games and just rolling for any mission out of the book. It's been really interesting to have a bit of a change and to have to work out some different tactics.
The problem I always have is that I keep forgetting about the missions/objectives etc and just go for wiping my opponent out and then end up scrabbling for an objective in the last turn of the game. I think that comes from starting playing 40k before there were missions. The battle missions often make you have to think about what you need to achieve early on and help focus the mind on actually achieving the objectives.
Cheers,
Steve
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/28 00:52:28
Subject: Re:Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I like them.
I think they're best played by building your army firts and then picking/rolling a mission. It forces you to think about your units in new ways and try new tactics.
Some aren't especially balanced but most of them are fun and it's good to try something new once in a while.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/28 10:57:44
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
Antwerp, Capitol of the Universe
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We've played a couple of games using it and it was great fun.
The missions are a very easy way to make a narrative campaign.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/28 11:13:36
Subject: Re:Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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My wife and I use the battle missions book almost every time we play. We look for different types of missions to keep things fresh, I'd recommend it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/28 12:00:34
Subject: Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Lady of the Lake
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I don't like the Eldar mission that gives up double kill points
Kill Teams is pretty good though. I usually use an Inquisitor and 5 Battle Sisters (Dominions), then go around with flamers and stuff. Plasma Pistols are fun too if you're versing Necrons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/28 12:05:15
Subject: Re:Has anyone actually used Battle Missions?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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I think it adds an interesting dynamic. It's good for some challenges and we use it to randomly determine missions.
Agree it could have had more thought though... some are so similar to the main rulebook it's scary...
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