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These situations haven't occurred in any of my games, but as I am a SM player, I thought I might as well as ask, just in case.

1) If a Librarian uses Force Dome, but rolls double 1s, can he use the 5+ invul for perils of the Warp (rerolling if successful)? He passed the test but does the power come into effect before or after the peril is the question.

2) Does a hunter-killer missile that has been fired (its only shot) still count as a weapon for weapon destroyed results?

Thanks guys.

Fiend wrote:These situations haven't occurred in any of my games, but as I am a SM player, I thought I might as well as ask, just in case.

1) If a Librarian uses Force Dome, but rolls double 1s, can he use the 5+ invul for perils of the Warp (rerolling if successful)? He passed the test but does the power come into effect before or after the peril is the question.

2) Does a hunter-killer missile that has been fired (its only shot) still count as a weapon for weapon destroyed results?

Thanks guys.

1) Yes, he can use it.
2) Yes. No. Maybe. It's really unclear. RaW I would say yes it does, but some people get annoyed about it. It's been discussed before on Dakka and Yakface even made a poll about it.

Fiend wrote:1) If a Librarian uses Force Dome, but rolls double 1s, can he use the 5+ invul for perils of the Warp (rerolling if successful)? He passed the test but does the power come into effect before or after the peril is the question.

I would say not. Perils of the Warp is resolved before the power is used, as it's a part of the test to determine whether you can cast the power in the first place.

2) Does a hunter-killer missile that has been fired (its only shot) still count as a weapon for weapon destroyed results?

RAW, yes. It can only be used once, but nothing in the rules says to stop counting it as a weapon after it has been fired.

I doubt you'll find too many people who actually play that way, though.

Thanks Gwar. Those were the same conclusions I reached and was curious as to what the consensus was. I could see how someone would be annoyed that their weapon destroyed result did effectively nothing (especially since they didn't kill the vehicle in the first place).

Edit:
Thanks Insaniak too. So now we have a disagreement which is great as I wanted a discussion. I can see how perils is still part of the test. How does one justify getting the invul save for perils?

Note that a psyker who rolls double 1 will still use his power, even if he is wounded or killed as a result.

That says to me the power goes off before the wound is taken, as it is a "Note", not a rule in itself. It is, instead, just reminding you that the power goes off before the wound is taken, so it happens even if he is wounded.