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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/29 14:07:04
Subject: Tomb Spyder scarab instant death?
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Freaky Flayed One
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Hey guys and girls, just a quick question I'm having to double check on seeing as I'm having a game tomorrow and planning to run a tomb spyder or 2 and wanted to know about the scarab the spyder makes.
Say that the tomb spyder makes 1 scarab so he remains T 6 when counting for wounds but what if a str 6 shot hits them and I put the wound on the scarab, would the scarab be instant deathed as a scarab is base T 3 or are the ones tomb spyder makes different.
Any information on this would be great thanks.
Edit: changed instand to instant in title lol.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/05/29 14:17:50
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/29 14:13:25
Subject: Tomb Spyder scarab instand death?
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Cackling Chaos Conscript
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as far as i know it should ID the scarab if it's allocated to it- you check for ID AFTER you take saving throws, i think.
someone will no doubt come along and prove me wrong, however
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/29 14:26:32
Subject: Tomb Spyder scarab instant death?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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The only time the Tomb Spyder's toughness is used is when rolling to wound, nothing else (rulebook, p19). You use the target model's own toughness when calculating instant death (p26 only mentions the model's toughness, not the toughness value you used to wound).
So in your situation, you'd use the T6 to wound the unit and then, should the wound be allocated to the scarab swarm before saves, it will be instantly killed. Likewise, if you had two scarab swarms with the Spyder, you'd use T3 to wound the unit, but S6 wounds allocated to the Spyder won't instantly kill it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/29 14:30:29
Subject: Re:Tomb Spyder scarab instant death?
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Freaky Flayed One
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Ok thanks for both of your help, just had to get that cleared up.
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2,500 Points Zahndrekhs Royal Dynasty
850 Points Bork'ans Elite
750 Points Thousand Sons
1,500 Points Armadyls Espada (space wolves) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/29 14:31:59
Subject: Tomb Spyder scarab instant death?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nope you're right: the roll "to wound" uses the majorioty toughness, however you check for ID based on the *actual* toughness of the model
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/29 15:08:05
Subject: Tomb Spyder scarab instant death?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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To confirm what the other dudes are saying, S6+ will Instagib the scarabs!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/05/29 17:15:08
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/29 16:53:30
Subject: Tomb Spyder scarab instant death?
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Ship's Officer
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Gwar! wrote:To confirm what the other dudes are saying, T6+ will Instagib the scarabs! 
Um... that would be S6 I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/29 17:15:21
Subject: Tomb Spyder scarab instant death?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Thats what I said! Stop messing with mah quotes!  </Ninja>
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/05/29 17:15:33
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