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Ok People here is the question that has been bothering me and I need the advice of my fellow Dakka Dakka peeps.

I am still trying to get my groove together when i paint and the order in which I will do things. Well today I was at a GW store and saw people doing both. I am having a hard time choosing maybe you all can give me some pointers on either chose or some personal choices and why you chose them.

I hope you all can help out!

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depends on what you are painting.

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It depends on the quality you are aiming for. I go for tabletop quality (standard work) so I assemble then paint. People that go for pro quality usually paint them assemble (the ones I know)

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I am painting Orks...I am trying to go for a pretty good quality since I have spent as much as I have on them..I want them to be something i can be proud of!

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I find painting then assembling stupidly fiddly and if you aren't perfect with glue it WILL wreck the paint job you just spent time on.

I personally partially assemble and then paint. So I just leave anything off that obstructs other details, so for example on a space marine I generally leave the bolter unattached so I can get to the chest piece properly.

It's really a personal thing, you just need to find some method that you can just sit into and get it done.

 
   
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It is very much dependant upon what you are painting as has been said before. Like winter I leave bolters off and actually paint them on the sprue then clip and add them. The same should work for your orks.



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I like detail and alot of people say that i am doing it the hard way. So maybe if i leave the arms unattached?


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I will try on my boys leaving them armless and see how that works...IF you all have any more pointers just throw them up!

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Depends. I usually glue everything but arms on most models (tyranids,space marines,tau),and paint the torso and arms seperetely (**** why won't google help me spell that?).

leaving the arms off is a a good idea. Don't bother painting parts of tanks separately (yay),unless it's like a cockpit or something you'll actually see


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Samus_aran115 wrote:Depends. I usually glue everything but arms on most models (tyranids,space marines,tau),and paint the torso and arms seperetely (**** why won't google help me spell that?).

leaving the arms off is a a good idea. Don't bother painting parts of tanks separately (yay),unless it's like a cockpit or something you'll actually see


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So i should put my Battlewagon together before I paint it? What about my Trukk?

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Battlewagon assemble before painting. Trust me. But anything else Id say try both styles. You might like doing it differently then others. Alot of painting depends on your personal style.
   
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I say put it all together and paint it you may have to do touch ups but its the way to go.

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For vehicles I prime on the sprue, clip, then paint any internals you want to be able to see then assemble and do the outside.

For figures I put the legs, torso and head together and rather than gluing to the base I put a pin in one foot. This means I can use a cork or a pair of mole grips to hold the figure and can therefore get between the legs to fiddlier parts that I've found annoying when already based. I paint the arms then carefully scrape paint off the glue points and use precision plastic cement to glue and avoid ruining the paint job. Seems to work pretty well and allows detail work to be done but it is obviously more time consuming than sticking it all together up front.

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If you paint before assembly, don't use plastic glue. Since it bonds the plastic by melting it together, that would mess up the paint. Superglue works fine for me.

   
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I use Tempers Glue, and I will def put my BW together very soon before i paint it, I am going to try and glue the torso and paint then apply arms

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I paint then assemble. It allows for you to reach those visible hard to reach areas easily, and for you to paint assembly line style. It also makes the model itself less stressing since all you have to do is glue them together. I wouldn't suggest it for vehicles unless you paint the insides too.
   
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For me, it depends on the model. If there are details that will be partially but not totally obscured, such as the chest eagle on a tac marine, I will leave the arms off and paint them seperately so that I can get to the chest eagle easily.

If I'm doing Slugga Ork Boys from the AoBR box set, on the other hand, you can attach the arm, as it won't cause you any difficulties when painting. I leave the head off because I want to be able to get to the neck easily, but in the future I think I will go ahead and attach these, as almost all of the area I would have trouble reaching you can't see with the head attached anyway.

The same holds true for the shoulder pads on the previously mentioned tac marine. I go ahead and fit up the arms with a very light glue then glue on the shoulder pads, as where they attach they cover all details. Then I pop the arms off.

Another thing to consider when painting is the size of the part. If it's a small part such as an ork or SM head or shoulder pad, it may be easier to paint either on the sprue or attached to the model, as you will have something to grip. You can always use blue tac on a push pin or something similar to give a grip.
   
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Another thing to consider when painting is the size of the part. If it's a small part such as an ork or SM head or shoulder pad, it may be easier to paint either on the sprue or attached to the model, as you will have something to grip. You can always use blue tac on a push pin or something similar to give a grip.


That makes sense when it comes to the head and painting its details for a grip...I just could not figure out what I wanted to do

Another thing that I am trying to figure out which someone might be able to help me with is that, IF i put my BW together reading the codex am I allowed to take the Killakannon, a big gun and the other four weapons?

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Cutthroatcure wrote:Another thing that I am trying to figure out which someone might be able to help me with is that, IF i put my BW together reading the codex am I allowed to take the Killakannon, a big gun and the other four weapons?


Yes, according to the codex, you can take 6 guns on your wagon. Keep in mind, however, that the Killkanon is an Ordnance weapon, so if you fire it, no other weapons may fire on the vehicle that turn. And firing it will restrict your movement to a maximum of 6".

The general concensus I've seen here, and one I agree with, is that the Killkanon is not worth the points. It's Str7 AP3 which means it isn't good at taking down heavy (AV14) tanks because it can't penetrate their armor. The AP3 and Str lend itself to light vehicle and infantry killing, but other orks such as lootas (light vehicles) or boyz (infantry) already excel at these duties.

That being said, if you like the Killkanon, then I say go for it! You're playing so you have fun, and that's not something I think you should ever compromise on.
   
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I might put the killakannon part on the BW I build but probally won"t include in the points unless i want to play around with it a little bit...something about 5 other guns vs 1 KK is leaning alot towards one choice..I did not know it meant you could not shoot all the other guns.

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Winter wrote:I find painting then assembling stupidly fiddly and if you aren't perfect with glue it WILL wreck the paint job you just spent time on.

I personally partially assemble and then paint. So I just leave anything off that obstructs other details, so for example on a space marine I generally leave the bolter unattached so I can get to the chest piece properly.

It's really a personal thing, you just need to find some method that you can just sit into and get it done.
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The only things I paint then asseble are the big machines etc. like Dreads, Tanks, Greater Demons, Dragons and more.

   
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Cutthroatcure wrote:I might put the killakannon part on the BW I build but probally won"t include in the points unless i want to play around with it a little bit...something about 5 other guns vs 1 KK is leaning alot towards one choice..I did not know it meant you could not shoot all the other guns.


I would highly recommend looking up magnetizing the weapons. It's not difficult to do, just requires a bit of planning and a few dollars worth of magnets. That way you could pick and choose your loadout.
   
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I would highly recommend looking up magnetizing the weapons. It's not difficult to do, just requires a bit of planning and a few dollars worth of magnets. That way you could pick and choose your loadout.


That is a good idea, I wonder if there is a place that you can buy the more higher powered magnets to use, I would also have to borrow a Dremel Tool to make indents. Any suggestions?

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