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Well lately Ive been playing a large number of 750pt games just because of the small amount of time each game takes. These games and tournaments are mostly 1v1 on a 4'x4' table and 2v2 on a standard size table this being said here is my take on an all comers list for this format.

HQ:
Farseer, Doom (80)

Troops:
10 Storm Guardians w/ 2 Flamers w/ Destructor Warlock (127)
Wave serpent w/ Cannons, S (110)

3 Guardian Jetbikes + Jetlock, Destructor (121)

Elites:
5 Fire Dragons (80)
Wave Serpent w/ Cannons, SS (110)


Heavy Support:
3 War walkers- Cannons (120)
748 pt

Ive found War walkers to be amazing on small tables with just Cannons to keep them cheap and when outflanking on a 4'x4' table a 6"+24" threat range reaches something the turn they come in. The guardian Jetbikes are the only thing im not sure on I realize they will be easy to kill so I will need to mess with my opponents target priority by presenting other targets to keep them up the whole game

Just curious as to what people think and any help they could offer

Honestly, not much, all I would do is:

Drop the destructor warlock.

Change the ShuriCannons on the walkers into scatter lasers.

Jetbikes:

Use them passively:

Then the warlock is wasted, keep them like this.

Aggresively:

Then they die the turn after, and they can't last minute steal/contest objectives.

Not a bad list, I'd drop the Spirit Stones from the Dragon Serpent, warlock on jetbike switch to embolden (you'd be amazed at the difference in survivability) and preferably a spear, Squeeze Runes of Warding in on Farseer unless you rarely play any chaplains or other psykers.

BlueDagger wrote:Not a bad list, I'd drop the Spirit Stones from the Dragon Serpent, warlock on jetbike switch to embolden (you'd be amazed at the difference in survivability) and preferably a spear, Squeeze Runes of Warding in on Farseer unless you rarely play any chaplains or other psykers.

Chaplains don't have psychic powers? Maybe you shouldn't critique at midnight.

Lol yeah, long weekend lol. *sigh*

But yeah I always take Runes of Warding. It jacks with so many people that it's well worth 15pts.

Alright thanks for the help guys Its given me some good things to think about

One thing I was looking at was 3 Cannon war walkers Vs. 2 Scatter laser war walkers

it comes down to are 2 shots worth giving up for 12" of added range? And what about survivability the 3 Cannon walkers would be able to take more hits. Does anyone have experience or an opinion on this?

Yes, if you are ever going to take walkers, take three. Three or none.

Edit- Side note -Three shuricannon walkers should have enough range to get the enemies.

Correct if playing on a 4x4 board the Cannon walkers would be better then the sacrifice and there is no way to fudge the 180pts without a drastic change to your list.

Kinda similar to what I used to play. I had 2 DAVU serpents with scatters as my troop choices. Worked well then but that was some time ago.
Still think your list will work well tho. The Bikes will most likely benefit more from Embolden if you decide to take a Warlock.

even if I miss it Radius of the die and more scatter laser the war walker
I find this list very versatile and fun
although the only doubt that recurs from time to time is in the power of sorcerers
good to annihilation