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Ok, I learned a big lesson last night, something I took for granted as normally I am a Ultramarines player.

I lack being able become combat squads now that I am making the leap over to Space Wolves. If I am unable to Combat Squad my troops, I learned that Space Wolves, who are very independent character/unit based, make for very concentrated return fire and assaults on me. I need to make as many targets as possible for my opponent to attack.

So, that being said.. for a standard 1500 pt game for example, would it be a good idea to load up on smaller squads of grey hunters, 5-8 guys with extra special weps, maybe a few squads of Blood Claws. Maybe get 4+ troop choices?

I made the mistake of taking just 3 squads of units last night and two vehicles (14 man, 10 man, and 5 man squads), with a bunch of attached characters spread through out, and they ended up being massive magnets for return fire.


Comments, suggestions?

I use 6 min Grey hunters in Razorbacks for my Wolf list each with an attached WG or IC(4 WG w/sb+th, 1 Wolf Lord, 1 Battle Leader) This gives me excellent target Saturation, and the turn I disembark I get to shoot 10 bolter shots with any wolf Guard Squad along with the squad Special weapon. Then if the unit i just fired at is not falling back from casualties and assaults me I get to roll for Counter attack and hit them with an avalanch of CC attacks(each squad has a Mark of the wolfen, Wolf standard, and a Power Fist).

Well, I'd take 3 full GH units in Rhinos. They can form the backbone of any SW army at the 1500 pt level.
Don't go overboard with characters. Better spend most of the points for fire support.

Resisting the lure of the quad HQ is the path to success for a SW player. If you end up with 500 points in HQs, which is horribly easy to do, then you may not have enough army left to beat your opponent. I believe the notion from the last codex was 1 HQ per 500 points, which works fairly well. So at 1500, don't exceed 3. 2 HQs is probably more appropriate.

wuestenfux wrote:Well, I'd take 3 full GH units in Rhinos. They can form the backbone of any SW army at the 1500 pt level.
Don't go overboard with characters. Better spend most of the points for fire support.

Gitzbitah wrote:Resisting the lure of the quad HQ is the path to success for a SW player. If you end up with 500 points in HQs, which is horribly easy to do, then you may not have enough army left to beat your opponent. I believe the notion from the last codex was 1 HQ per 500 points, which works fairly well. So at 1500, don't exceed 3. 2 HQs is probably more appropriate.

And this was the mistake that I learned.. 4 HQs and not enough troopers...

Yeah, definately avoid the 4 HQs...
I run my troopss as 3 nine-man packs of Grey Hunters in Rhinos, with WGPLs w/PF and combi-melta, and the squads have a meltagun, Wolf Standard (Do not underestimate these, they have saved me on more than several occasions), Mark of the Wulfen, and a PF. Forms a strong backbone which is good to hold the midfield with. I then have a squad of ML armed LFs, 'cos they're awesome, then a couple of Lone Wolves to tie up shooty squads (remember, shoot the choppy stuff, chop the shooty stuff ), and a rune priest (He replaces a GH in one squad, so as to make room in the rhino)
Hope that helps