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Slave on the Slave Snares



australia

hi played DE 3-4th ed, stoped due to work when 5th ed came out . getting back into the game wondering what more is broken for us ??.
close combat???
movement ???
cover/cover save ???
etc etc how gimped are they now in 5th ed compared too 4th ed ?

   
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader




Northern Virginia

umm not quite sure what you are asking, but Thor or dashofpepper will probably chime in on this one at some point.

If you are look at what 5th ed changed the ones I can think of off the top of my head are the following.

Our jetbikes get the 6" extra move during the assault phase if we dont' charge just like normal eldar jetbikes.
you can have models with punishers on jetbikes now
horrorfexes are no longer defensive weapons so you can't fire them AND your dark lance from raiders
A a bunch of items no longer work due to the mechanics being gone. The rulign for nightmare doll is debatedable and depends on how you play it its in the YMDC forum I think.

As for how gimped they are that is also debateable. DE are actually pretty awesome at low to medium point values (1000-8150) as we ahve two pretty strong army types. The problem is once you get to larger games, (2000+) we have already filled out most of our good choices and we have to get other units. So I'd say biggest weaknesses are an ancient codex (this is also a strength as no one knows what we do and rarely plays against us giving us surprize) and limited unit choices. Hopefully this will change soon as a new dex is rumored to be coming very soon.

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Lethal Lhamean






Venice, Florida

Greetings,

I'll second dumpling in saying that I'm not quite sure what you're asking. But here's some other things that have changed that he forgot to mention.

DE Gunboats (Splinter Cannon + Blaster/Shredder in a Raider) are generally considered less valuable since you can no only shoot out of it if you've moved 6" or less and it's harder to get inherent saves for skimmers. (I personally still think Gunboats are great, but opinions are more mixed then they used to be)
Incubi/Wyches are a bit weaker with the new sweeping advance rules as now it's harder to roll up lines or to hide in close combat.
Webway Portals are weaker now since the new reserves rule fills many of the WWP needs and also since you can't roll up lines anymore.

Mech spam is very common in the current meta - because DE are good at killing vehicles (and spamming them ourselves) we are still competitive barring a few dangerous rock/paper type matchups.
The best DE build is currently Raider spam - within that you can choose to go shooty/assaulty/or whatever.
With running added to all armies we're not as fast as we used to be by comparison (though the Talos is faster now) but we're still probably one of the very fastest armies.

Hope that covers what you're asking.

Thor665's Dark Eldar Tactica - A comprehensive guide to all things DE (Totally finished...till I update bits and pieces!)
Thor665's battle reports DE vs. assorted armies.
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