Boats.The Imperium is strong and mighty but it has no boats!WHERE ARE THEY?!?

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**MenOfTanith**

Can someone explain where the boats are?
I like boats

**superscenic**

The Imperium is allergic to water as washing or getting wet carries the risk of becoming impure. Only rinsing in the blood of the heretic and Xenos are allowed. Therefore All SM and IG stink of High heaven.

I believe this is why there are no boats in the Imperium.

**croggy**

there are no boats because chimeras float

so i suppose chimeras are the boats

**Lexx**

There are boats. Read the 40k novel Flesh and Iron. Plenty in that.

**Honersstodnt**

read the story flesh and iron... new imperial guard novel.

I quite liked it actually... a large portion of the story revolves around boat warfare (though involving riverboats more than naval cruisers, though large troopships are discussed).

edit... damn you lexx, you beat me to it.

**Erasoketa**

OP: I guess you've read Necropolis. They use ferrys there u_u

**zeshin**

Orcs use boats (submarines) in Helsreach. But seriously the imperium just land their cruisers upside down in the ocean. Best battleships around.

**Grey Templar**

are you refering to a Planatary Navy, like current countries on earth have?

such tiny vessals would be under the PDF forces.

besides who needs 1/2 mile long battleships when you have a 20 mile long Capital ship in orbit that can shoot anywhere on the planet.

**MenOfTanith**

Im talking about small boats, like patrol boats

**Grey Templar**

well, think about this.

how often will something that small and mundane be worth mentioning?

books with boats like that woud be the SW omnibus and Brothers of the Snake.

**Lexx**

MenOfTanith wrote:Im talking about small boats, like patrol boats

Go read Flesh and Iron then! It has battleships, gunboats and other boat types also. And a big freakin Cannon.

**MenOfTanith**

I may just go out and buy it then

**Fossil Hunter**

Row, Row, Row your boat.

**Honersstodnt**

... gently up your ass.

**Space_Potato**

In the grim, dark future of the 41st millenium there is only one boat.

ROWBOAT GIRLYMAN!

S_P

**oni**

Boats are completely unnecessary in M41.

**Lexx**

oni wrote:Boats are completely unnecessary in M41.

Not entirely true since black library released a 40k novel focused around boat warfare..

**IronfrontAlex**

in the grim darkness of the future there is only LAND!

**Valhallan42nd**

Because Naval warfare has sold so well for GW in the past?

**Kanluwen**

Boats aren't needed so long as the Imperium controls the skies.

**Shrike325**

The moment you say that space flight is not only common, but the entire way that armies are moved along with VTOL aircraft, the navy becomes useless.

Why have a naval carrier when your orbiting battlecruiser can deploy aerospace fighters? Why have a battleship to bombard the enemy when your orbiting battlecruiser can drop shells from space? Why have a troop transport when your orbiting battlecruiser (I think there's a trend here) can carry them and deploy them in dropships faster than landing craft?

**Emperors Faithful**

They aren't commonly used for Military purposes, yet they are mentioned in Caiphas Cain. (3rd Book I think)

However, many worlds are at technological levels similar to ours our lower, so ships would still be a very big deal here.

**croggy**

also cost would factor greatly

boats would be used to transport freight around worlds containing a very small or spread out land mass

and the smaller waterways /swamps may only be accessable by boat

**Budgie**

Doesnt the last rulebook (not the current one, i just dont remember the number) mention cargo boats in relation to the Armageddon mission at the back....

**Fiend**

There's a few chapters in the Soul Drinkers series (I read the omnibus so I dont know which book) where they commandeer some old supply ships to invade an island. They weren't imperial guard I think, but they were from a once Imperial planet. There was a SM sea battle and even a beach landing!

**Bookwrack**

IronfrontAlex wrote:in the grim darkness of the future there is only LAND!

Which is actually true - in order for boats to be of any relevance to a game, you're going to need tables with large amounts of water on them which is going to create its own set of problems for the rest of the game. In terms of verisimilitude, at least in military terms, the majority of boats are big, slow targets, and the fact they are restricted to water is an immense draw back.

**jrmudo**

I read some where that LandRaiders double up as a short term submarine. Plus can't space marines breath under water?