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I thought I was losing my mind, a judge made this call and cited a section of the rulebook that I will list after I describe the situation.

Leman Russ elevated about two inches shoots through a template of area terrain at some Bikes. I go to take cover saves and my opponent contends that I should not since his tank has a clear LOS. I say shooting through area terrain grants cover to my guys. We call a judge and he cites this section of the rulebook:

pg 21 Firers may of course shoot over intervening terrain if they are tall enough or high up on some terrain piece so that their line of sight is completely clear. As usual, check the firers' line of sight by taking a good look from behind their heads, and 'see what they see'.

So this seems to say either forget about area terrain or this paragraph above forgot about area terrain.

However on the next page there are Exceptions, I will cite two to raise some interesting points.

Firing through units or area terrain: If a model fires through the gaps between some elements of area terrain(such as gaps between two trees in a wood) or though gaps between models in an intervening unit, the target is in cover even if it is completely visible to the firer. Note that this does not apply if the shots go over the are terrain rather than through it.

also

Firing out of area terrain: Models that are inside area terrain firing out of will position themselves with good fields of vision. Therefore they may fire through up to 2" of area terrain that they are occupying without the terrain conferring a cover save to the target.


Ok so now I am wondering if you shoot through area terrain and there are no objects like trees for a model to be between would you get cover at all? It seems pretty specific about the qualifier for cover. At first I thought I had caught a really bad ruling but this looks like RAW might dictate that flat area terrain would only grant cover to those in it or those being shot at it from more than 2 inches inside it.

Please help, I want to have this cover stuff sorted out fully by Bolscon.

Deja vu...

La de da, 2nd thread

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