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Ok Maggot's here is the list that will make you chunder everywha! Read, take notes.....

In all seriousness, ive tested this list alot, i believe it to be a take all comers list.

Leave any of your thoughts, feedback, peevs, what you'd drop and take instead. I really want to hear it


HQ - 604

Farseer1 - Jetbike, Singing Stones, Fortune, Doom, Runes of Warding, Singing Stones
Farseer2 - Jetbike, Singing Stones, Guide, Mindwar
5 Warlocks on Bikes - 1.Enhance + Singing Spear, 2.Embolden + Singing Spear, 3.Destructor, 4.Destructor, 5.Destructor


Troops - 795

10 Dire Avengers - Exarch, Dual Catapults, Bladestorm
----> Waveserpent1 - TL Brightlances
10 Dire Avengers - Exarch, Power Weapon & Shimmershield, Defend
----> Waveserpent2 - TL Brightlances, Star Engines
3 Jetbikes - Shuriken Cannon
5 Pathfinders


Elites - 80

5 Firedragons
---->Falcon(specced in heavy section)


Heavy - 515

Fire Prism - Holofields, Spirit Stones
Fire Prism - Holofields, Spirit Stones
Falcon - Holofields, Spirit Stones, Starcannons, Shuricannon


1993pts


Ok.... so here are the intended job's of the chosen units

Jetbike Council - In early stages turbo boost and singing spear tank hunt while under their own guide. They will assault when appropriate(this will be done after the target unit has been destructored and any key threats have been neutralised by mindwar)
Waveserpent1 - trys to get BL shot's off when it can and unleashes bladestorm on a doomed unit when possible
Waveserpent2 - moves forward as fast as possible and threaten the enemy home objective it is geared for cc to to be able to deal with such units, hence the star engines so it can get to where it's needed.
Pathfinders - sit on home objective
Jetbikes - Last minute objective grab. Or find a nice spot and dive in and out of cover shooting their Shuricannon
Fireprisms - try to either small blast units that that have just come out of transports, or pop armoured units
Falcon - Can move 12" and shoot all weapons (str 6 = defensive {i think}) , try and find worthy target for fire dragons, most likely 2+ unit

It's not...bad, but definitely not an ultimate list. The jetbikes are only 3 strong? I'd kill them just for the easy KP. You might also want to consider taking some assault-oriented units.

I have never had luck with a shimmer shield and powersword.

I also think Mindwar is a waste of time.

Oh and I hate Starcannons as well, lol. I'd go with BL or Scatter Lasers. Starcannons seem to fail these days because everything seems to get cover saves.


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Instead of using Mindwar I would consider picking up another Doom or Fortune.

Dude! Wake up!Singing Stones, really?

Your farseers need a redo:
Bike Seer 1:
Doom, Fortune, Stones, Singing Spear, RoW, RoW
Bike Seer 2:
Mind War, Guide, Stones, RoWit

why2.0? Its pretty much 1.0, you havent listned to much advice at all so I see no point in pointing out the obvious flaws....but I guess I will do it anyway.

Second Farseer should have fortune as well. Both farseer should have RoWit.

Dragons SHOULD NOT BE IN A FALCON. how hard is that to understand? Also str 4=defensive....
Star cannons is total crap.

Pathfinders are static and useless in a list like this.

Shimmer shield and defend...why do you want a tarpit unit when you have 24" skimmers??

Holo fields on Prisms are not necessary but that is more a matter of taste as oppsed to the other poor choices I have listed

Why should the Second farseer have fortune?
You're right about the tarpit Dire avengers, might take of shimmer shield and give dual cats and Bladestorm.

Why are holofields not necessary? it keeps it from getting killed.