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I'm trying to get some Terminators for my strict-budget army, and 40 to 50 bucks is just way too much. On ebay, every 5 out of 7 results are the Terminators or bits from the Assault on Black Reach set. They're cheap as dirt, so my question is: are they THAT BAD? I know they are snap together, but I'm only looking for the basic 5 with storm bolters and power fists anyway. Can't I just modify them with an Exacto knife and glue if I didn't like their standard poses? I'd love yall's thoughts...

It's not that they're bad models per se, it's just that they're poorly outfitted. Who the heck uses tactical terminators anymore?

What exactly makes them "tactical"?

i'd say tactical terminators would be quite useful in a gunline marine army. some things, nobs and thunderwolves especially, require large amounts of powerfists... and terminators ranged firepower (if you give them an assault cannon or cyclone launcher) is pretty good. not great for their cost, but their survivability and close combat abilities make them a good addition to most armies.

just make sure you convert one to have a special weapon (cyclone or assault cannon... heavy flamer probably not so great, you can get flamers other ways) and you have a cheap and viable unit.

if your arguing that CC terminators are better... well, consider that they are JUST as survivable against small arms, if their in cover, their 50% less survivable against plasma weapons. if their in cover though, and take ~6-7 wounds from plasma, you can simply go to ground, most likely fail at least 2 saves, choose to fall back, and be back in the fight next round, while maintaining the survivability of hammer terminators, but the shootyness of tac terminators.

penguineater91 wrote:What exactly makes them "tactical"?

As in tactical (shooty) vs assault terminators.

gotcha.
i'm definitely liking shooty... I have an ass cannon from my DA veterans, so I can throw that on I guess!

Tactical Terminators are not as bad as people say.
I play DA and my deathwing come down turn 1 with a Heavy Flamer right behind the enemy lines.
They do heavy damage (especially against Tau ) and they have the survival capabilities to weather the storm of fire that comes their way.

As for the Black Reach Termies, they are not bad but they come with no options and fairly lacklustre poses. Get them only if you need to add some in elsewhere or you really don't like options.

You can fairly easily add Lightning Claws and/or Thunder Hammer/Storm Shields by buying them as bitz from the GW website.

Or, you could stick with the storm bolters and buy Assault Cannons from the website.

Fifty wrote:You can fairly easily add Lightning Claws and/or Thunder Hammer/Storm Shields by buying them as bitz from the GW website.

Or, you could stick with the storm bolters and buy Assault Cannons from the website.

The TH/SS bitz set on GW website are for power armour models IIRC, and the assault cannons are from the old, crappy Terminator models.

Nah, the bitz from the website are fine for Terminators. I have them myself.

That's me corrected. Although I had been hoping those bitz were for power armour.. they did look that way..

EDIT: I was right after all. Well, about the TH/SS anyway. The termy arms just look like the old ones because they're very "scrunched" up, or compressed or whatever.

They would probably fit fine on Power Armour, tbh, but they are fine on the AOBR terms.

Are you looking at the website and seeing the size of the pad at the top of the arm? That is just the bit that goes under the shoulder pad.

You can easily use it with either the Crux Terminatus pads that are supplied or some power armour shoulders, I imagine. I had never thought about doing that, as I do have some spares...

Hmmm... although now I think about it, those Crux pads do look more like Power Armour size. The Claws are deffo Terminator sized though.

They're definitely power armour arms IMO. Would like to see them in person, so I could see how they looked on power armour and termy models, although I imagine it wouldn't look so great, except for your assurances.

I will dig some out and post a photo of sizes...

Hang on.

Yeah, I might need to convert using the shoulder pads from the original Power Fist arms. That will also mean I can use the Power Fists on regular marines by converting in the other direction too.

Damn, another job to do.

Erm, those TH/SS look really small on termies.. definitely power armour. Although the claws look like a pretty good fit.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Erm, those TH/SS look really small on termies.. definitely power armour. Although the claws look like a pretty good fit.

They're made for the old Terminators in 3rd ed. They were only a little taller than Space Marines are now.

Getting AoBR bodies and then buying lightning claw arms or whatever off eBay is a good choice. My buddy who plays Deathwing does that and it honestly doesn't make much of a difference, visually. I guess if you look up close you might notice, but it's a lot less obvious than the AoBR tactical Marines or Orks.

There good models but the come in the basic look forward and hold a gun..... forward and the power fists and looking to powerful.

If you get the Standard Terminator box, you will get enough heavy weapons for three Terminator Squads.

the reason the AoBR termies are soo cheap on the Bay is because all the ork players who bought the set for the orks are trying to dump all the marines.

it is not a bad gimmic. buy the set keep the 1/2 you want and sell the rest for 1/2 the price the normal boxed set of that model group costs, you will almost completely pay for the starter sets cost.




at the OP:(Shameless plug) if you like shooty SM armies check out my article in the article section here on Dakka titled, Unit choices for a SM gunline. will tell you how to use Tac termies.

templeorks wrote:There good models but the come in the basic look forward and hold a gun..... forward and the power fists and looking to powerful.

Pardon??

He's saying they are not aesthetically maximized, UltraPrime.

Re the bitz packs, the lightning claws are from the old termies - they're a touch smaller than the current plastics but fit fine.

The left handed thunder hammers are for power armour.

The ass cannon from GW Bitz looks just fine on AoBR termies too.

Necroagogo wrote:The ass cannon from GW Bitz looks just fine on AoBR termies too.

That is the truth it one of the better convertions you can get out of that box aside from the warboss.