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Here's the situation...A unit of say SM assualts a unit of Guardians, the results are a draw. Now during the Eldar's turn, the Eldar assualts another unit of Guardians into the First pile from another side so both units are in B2B contact. It comes to the SM's turn to attack....Can they

A) Attack either unit they wish

B)Only Attack the original unit they were fighting in the previous round, or

C)Models in B2B with both units attack either, and models only in B2B with one Unit can only attack that unit

Referring to BRB pg. 41 states under Multiple Combats states " Models that were engaged with just one unit of the enemy units at the beginning of the combat (before any model attacked) must attack that unit."

Just curious as it happened and a little confusing on the wording....thanks.
   
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When another unit joins combat you can choose to break up attacks between either unit in much the same way as attacking a special charecter. The thing is you have to work it out liek any other assualt and have b2b and within 2 inch models attacking that unit.

I.e. a marine 4 inchs away from gaurdian unit b. but in base to base with gaurd unit a. Can only attack unit a. It would be impossible to attack unit b as he is neither within 2 of another marine in contact with them or in base to base with unit b.

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The beginning of Combat is not the same as the Beginning of the assault phase.

Once you realise that, things become a lot simpler.

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Also, read the rulebook FAQ, in the errata section...
   
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Straight from the 40K errata -

"Models that at the beginning of the combat
(before any model attacked) were engaged with
more than one enemy unit, but were in base
contact with just one of the enemy units, must
attack that unit."

This rule is the basis for using a cheap, expendable unit for the initial charge the enemy unit, then hitting them with the elite 'butcher' unit second, to ensure that they cannot hit them back, in that round of CC.

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Except that is incorrect, as it states "at the beginning of combat", which is AFTER you have made ALL assault and pile in moves.
   
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J'santai Khan wrote:

This rule is the basis for using a cheap, expendable unit for the initial charge the enemy unit, then hitting them with the elite 'butcher' unit second, to ensure that they cannot hit them back, in that round of CC.


Incorrect conclusion. Beginning of combat =/= beginning of the assault phase, otherwise no blows would ever be struck on the turn a unit assaulted an unengaged unit. "Beginning of combat" is after assault moves, and defenders react moves are made, but before hits are rolled. THIS is when you determine which models are eligible to swing at which units.

If "beginning of combat" was the very start of the assault phase, then any unit making an assault move would have to wait until the next round of the assault (forfeiting the +1 attack) as it would have exactly 0 models in BtB with an enemy unit at the "beginning of combat".

Edited for spelling and a minor error.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/06/13 18:53:55


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