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This is the worst GW army deal that I can remember. So useless.

Posted By The Crawling Chaos on 01/07/2007 9:41 PM
This is the worst GW army deal that I can remember. So useless.

Really?

It doesn't look any worse than the regular Space Marine one to me... they've swapped 5 Assault Marines for 5 new Devastators, swapped the bikes and razorback for a Terminator Squad and Predator, and 6 metal scouts for 5 plastic ones and a Librarian... and included the new Dark Angels sprues in place of a regular Tactical Squad.

So if anything it's slightly better in my book...

Why would anybody want tpo pay so much for a bunch of marines in dresses?

Just beause they are not afraid to show a little leg doesn't make them any less fearsome.

is there no limited edition model only available in the box set anymore? 

The DA captain standing next to the Librarian is limited to the box set.

Is it me, or have the Dark Angels gotten a little less dark this time around?

My DAs are almost black. These guys look almost like Salamanders.

So there's a 'Dark Angel Veteran frame' and a 'Ravenwing Upgrade frame' but no 'Deathwing Upgrade frame' ? Or does the 'Dark Angel Veteran frame' include some Deathwing bits?

The Veteran sprue would presumably do for power armoured Deathwing upgrades... and the Terminator sprue for models in Terminator Armour.

Anyone know if the Terminators are a complete model, or just the regular terminators with an add-on sprue?

The Dark Angels army deal is neither an army or a deal, discuss amonst yourselves.

(Old Mike Myers joke)

Anyways, the Army Deal has some value, I know of many people who bought a few, kept what they wanted and sold the rest. It does get codexes into the hardcore fan earlier, so how can you complain?

Posted By insaniak on 01/08/2007 9:48 PM
The Veteran sprue would presumably do for power armoured Deathwing upgrades...

I know that supposedly the Deathwing army has ceased to exist (at least in the classic form).  Is it confirmed that you can now have Deathwing marines in power armor?

No idea... but you've always been able to have characters in power armour, who are members of the Deathwing.

Ah yes, I had forgotten about that.  Azrael was in power armor right?  And he was obviously a member of the Deathwing (along with all the rest of the ranking officers of the Chapter, I assume.)

I've been reading too much of the "why Deathwing marines shouldn't wear power armor" fluff rants over at the B&C.  I had taken leave of my senses for a moment.  I apologize.

Posted By Hordini on 01/09/2007 12:53 PM
I've been reading too much of the "why Deathwing marines shouldn't wear power armor" fluff rants over at the B&C.

There, my friend, lies the road to madness.

Posted By Hordini on 01/09/2007 12:37 PM

I know that supposedly the Deathwing army has ceased to exist (at least in the classic form). 

Two Heads Talking and Lame Bear are rolling over in their graves.

Posted By Hordini on 01/09/2007 12:53 PM
Ah yes, I had forgotten about that.  Azrael was in power armor right?  And he was obviously a member of the Deathwing (along with all the rest of the ranking officers of the Chapter, I assume.)

Yup, Dark Angels Masters, Librarians and the higher-ranking Chaplains, as well as some Veteran Sergeants and, of course, the entire first company are all members of the Deathwing.

And all of the Special Characters released to date have been in power armour...

It's, uhm, traditional ornate Power Armor that the Master wears. I'm sure he did his time in Tactical Dreadnought armor. That winged helm only fits on Power Armor.

Posted By Ahtman on 01/09/2007 6:16 PM
That winged helm only fits on Power Armor.

Which would only matter if he actually wore it...

He does wear it. The whole thing. Including the midget.

Yeah, that's on the sprue now too. Maybe that's why it's $250.

"Don?t touch my medallion my diamonds are reckless/feels like a midget is hanging from my necklace."

Posted By Ahtman on 01/09/2007 6:16 PM
It's, uhm, traditional ornate Power Armor that the Master wears. I'm sure he did his time in Tactical Dreadnought armor.

Impossible!  His head is quite clearly set squarely atop his shoulders and not in the middle of his chest.^*

^*This is how to properly represent terminator honors.

Something is wrong. The £50 Dark Angel Battleforce is not much smaller.

There's nothing wrong there.

The Battleforce is about half the size of the army box, and includes a pretty substantial saving on buying the models seperately, like most Battleforces.

The Army Box is just a bundle. It's a way for people to get an army all at once, a little earlier than most other people can get it, and so the saving on the models is quite a bit less.

Posted By Mahu on 01/09/2007 11:30 AM
 It does get codexes into the hardcore fan earlier, so how can you complain?

Must... resist... mental... image... :|

im excited for the first time since they butchered the templars
i have 10 boxes allocated for my store i am getting an advanced copy of the codex the week before so ill know right away if one of those boxes is for me!

god i hope they dont do to them what they did to the templars... please please please dont neuter them

Um...one heavy weapon for DW is a neuter.

but ravenwing will be happy as clams... except..wait...they only get one tornado per landspeeder squadron...hmmm maybe not so happy. But thats not so bad either.

Fortunately I'll only be needing a few bits from the plastic sprue to make another Deathwatch Marine.

Is the new speeder bike plastic or metal?

OH MY GOD.. i know i may be behind but i just took a look at the advanced pics of the new dark angels .. there isnt anything before that even comes close some of these models are the best i have ever seen

the master of the revenwing alone is worth a lot to me.. can we all say space marine jetbikes again!!!!!!!! wooooo hooooo

say what you want about gw but im as happy as i can remember i got into this game over 12 years ago because of the dark angels and they are back!!!!!

I agree. The new stuff is pretty sweet - i'll probably even put aside my GW-going-down-the-drain-waste-of-money phobia, and buy some.

Chuck

Jeez... I've got a Dark Angels army, and I'm not that excited...