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Read it again. I just edited it to include stuff about The Other
Black Marines through Nerd Marines from a different Kid
Kyoto post.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Space_Marines_Previews-_Good_Space_Marines

That was a great read! The Salamanders part was clever hehe

IF you want to comment the article, there's a link at the
bottom of it that will bring you to the article forum.

Awesome. That is definitely on my favorites. Soooo funny! XD

I've considered changing my marines from ultramarines to something else. However, with the new Blood Angels and Dark Angels rules, I'm not sure what options are still viable. If the Marines codex ends up looking anything like the Blood Angels rules, I may just stick with my guard.

This whole thread reminds me of how much I hate Cadian IG, Black Legion, the T'au sept world, Hive Fleet Behemoth and Goff orks.

Huh? And why do you hate them?

Because they are all used generically by GW to portray the army as a whole. What a bunch of sellouts.

Lol, well that may be true, but why would we expect GW of all people to create viable models for their armies when they can get away with only a couple decent lines and the rest are all uber expensive. (ever tried to create an apocalypse worthy Death Korps of Kreig? Its no bloody cheap....)

Ultras always seemed too goody twoshoes for me. Chaos are much better, they're allowed to do bad things that Ultras can't.

The streyotype thing, the whole genericness of them, GW's over-hyping I all hate. Then the backstory doesnt really help them either. I mean can you imagine the conversation when the Ultras showed up after the seige of Terra?


Guilliman walks up wit whis legion (all of it, in mostly shiny armoyur, they all seem happy and well rested)
Dorn: Where the Flying F**k were you?!?!?!!!!!!!
Guilliman: we were uh, tied up... SO yea, I know some of us lost it and went to chaos, but Sandguinus?
Kahn: No, he got f**king KILLED, dumbass.
Corax: yea, and some of us got cut to gak over at Istvan V to, where the hell where you when that one went down, BROTHER???
Guilliman: Uh, yea, erm, Horus kept me busy for a reeeaaaaaal long time, somewhere.
Russ: And where was that??
Guilliman: not really sure, we were mostly, umm, mired in the warp...
El'Johnson: doing what, one massive circle-jerk????
Guilliman: well, there was a space battle, a big one... Say Corax, wheres the rest of your legion?
Corax: THis is all thats LEFT, dumbf**k, all the rest is DEAD!! if you knew the gak I did to try and get my legion back to full strength...

or something like that, thoughts on that random thought?

i have never been a fan of the Ultramaarines but the fluff made them sound kinda cool, sure they missed the siege of terra but they took over most of the fighting afterwards while the other marines rebuilt. I mean if it weren't for the ultramarines being at basically full strength the Imperium would have fallen.

I have never used the 'base army' and neither has anyone i know. One of them does Foe Crushers IG, I do word bearers, someone else does DeffSkullz orks and i used to use my own Tyranids (Hive fleet hoppo! Ruler of 500pt games)

And the Ultramarines do suck, thats why i use them at a meatshield for my army.

The ultra-meatshields are overpromoted and generic and blue.
Not a good combi to stand a chance in the 40k players choice olympics.

I didn't care of ultras as owner of a few SM,because it was to cemented how they look.

never forfeit the chance to make your own chapter for pansiemarines!

I know,GW must decide to give one example and the ultras got the job.Bad for them,good for every other chapter.

Haronen Tyr wrote:Pretty much the rundown..
Ultramarines are boyscouts.
Dark Angels are emo kids.
Blood Angels are cannibals.
Space Wolves are a bunch of frat boys.
Salamanders are pyromaniacs.
Raven Guard are goths.
Blood Ravens are nerds.
Black Templars are 1337!
(Notice how I couldn't find one for Imperial Fists...)

Flesh Tearers are cannibals.
Blood Angels are cutters.
Imperial Fists are meathead jocks (hit on the head too often to know when to quit)

Valhallan42nd wrote:

Haronen Tyr wrote:Pretty much the rundown..
Ultramarines are boyscouts.
Dark Angels are emo kids.
Blood Angels are cannibals.
Space Wolves are a bunch of frat boys.
Salamanders are pyromaniacs.
Raven Guard are goths.
Blood Ravens are nerds.
Black Templars are 1337!
(Notice how I couldn't find one for Imperial Fists...)

Flesh Tearers are cannibals.
Blood Angels are cutters.
Imperial Fists are meathead jocks (hit on the head too often to know when to quit)

You forgot the white scars and the iron hands

Are either of the two really worthy of mention?

Valhallan42nd wrote:Are either of the two really worthy of mention?

More than blood ravens and such

Honestly, I've been playing since 40K2 came out and I've never played/played against Ultramarines. I've played against dozens of different SM armies, but most of the 'Vanilla' ones were trying to be their own colour scheme successor chapter and so were more interesting.

Having said that, I really like the Greco-Roman Iconography that GW has put on the Ultras last 2 editions.

I remeber when 40K2 came out, everyone had Blood Angels for a while as they were what was in the box materials (Armageddon training scenarios, BA vs Goffs)

the true weird thing is that is and upsidedown omega symbol (omega is a greek letter meaning O and the end)

So get it easy... wait a second.. oh yeah 1st company, Macragge Polar Fortress... now what did you say again?

are one of the most resilient chapters out there. Yes Guilliman (sp?) didn't do alot of fighting during the HH but what are you gonna do? They were mired down by the warp! As soon as you can help them fix that then I will listen to you without complaining.

get the worst stuff because they know they have one of the best tactically proficient chapters around. Yes they can be easily predicted but at least they don't go running off screaming (Death Company), go and find the nearest bar and drink themselves to the Astartes limit (guess who), or try to clone themselves and make raging mutant monsters (if you can't guess this then you shouldn't be reading this) they at least know when restraint is needed and when sacrifical courage is the only way out.

Now go lay down.

'nuff said.

Haha, such a silly thread. I was surprised to see it again.

The remind me not to take this game too seriously. Their ret-conned fluff is impossible to follow, and so soaked with propaganda that there's no real way to tell what fictional fact is fact or fiction.

The are not "good" in a 21st century sense of the word, either. That's what makes them fun. I justify fighting anybody!

My only beef with the Ultramarines is that their legion is only 1,000 strong. If that's the case, I've totally killed 'em six or seven times over by now. I mean, the "math" of the Codex Astartes still baffles me. For a group as powerful as the , I'd expect they'd have at least opted to tack on a couple reserve companies, or make two or three Astartes Chapters their official bitches. Or maybe they have, and GW's just left that up to our imagination?

I consider my group to be a 10th Company Strike Force, wherein the scouts are all trying on their power armor and getting to learn how it works. That's my only explanation for why I have such a high turn-over.

Ultramarines are annoying, The sm codex id full of m only let the Blood Ravens take control.

Ultra Marines = Administrators of the Adeptus Astartes

Sure, they are space marines when it comes down to it, and as such must kick butt. But compared to other chapters, they are lacking in most respects. Their fluff is boring, their rules are boring, their models are boring, their persona is boring. They are just plain boring.

"Ooo Ooo, but we're cool cause we make all kinds of rules and tell everybody to follow our rules! OMG were THE BEST!!1!!!11!"

Or not.

The thing I hated most was their paint scheme, but thankfully that was fixed. They look MUCH better now in my opinion.

In any case Im sick of GW shoving their poster boys down our throats.
*Coughs Cadians*

Hey We are talking about Ultra-Smurfs, not Cadians Cadians are nice.

Arran235 wrote:Hey We are talking about Ultra-Smurfs, not Cadians Cadians are nice.

Oh, I'm sorry for the confusion. Let me clarify

I cringe every time I see those god-awful safety helmets

And so I convert every plastic cadian's helmet to look like a pewter cadian's helmet.
Tedious?
yes
Worth it?
YES

I disagree. I like the new ones. Don't like the old ones