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gorgon wrote:Disclaimer: I'm not a financial analyst. I have, however, worked with analysts at investment firms and know that value investors (and I think GW falls into the value category now) look for a catalyst -- something that's going to spur growth and turn a company's fortunes around.

They need to start advertising in the states. Most everyone in the UK is aware of the game's existence, but 90% of GW's target audience in the US have never heard of the game.

Surely the shrinkage in the US market (in previous years) argues that people did know of GW and lost interest.

1. Did she actually say Warcraft, or just the dubber?

2. One of the background images was from Firaxis Civilization III, not from any Games Workshop publication.

3. The producers of the program have bitten the 'its because of LotR' line for the drop in sales. This is patently crap. The interest has been salved by the films, GW is to blame or not maintiaining that interest.
After all Star Wars franchise items still sell very well, and LotR is of comperable scale.

This stock review likes to add a few soundbytes to make itself look clever, but shows a distinct lack of content for investors. anyone who takes on board what this bimbo (or in fairness her scriptwriter) has to say is being had.

Kilkrazy wrote:Surely the shrinkage in the US market (in previous years) argues that people did know of GW and lost interest.

Marketing isn't something that "you do" and then "you're good". Like putting gas into your car, you've got to keep it at a certain level at all times if you expect it to run. Shrinkage in a market indicates that you had a presence, which you then lost to competing interests. In this case, it could be described as more 40k hobbyists leaving than joining. GW is no different than a phone service or shoe manufacturer, if they're not actively competing in their demographic then they'll lose business.

ok for a starters you seemed to go to alot of effort to bag out a company that makes more money than you will in a life time then you, and clearly its not only guys that collest warhammer, if you visoted a golden deamon then you would see as many guys as girls there and there are clearly millions of people that collect this, "not girlfriend hobby" as you say and were does world of warcraft wome into warhammer, and if you hate warhammer so much wy did you wast money buying the Battle Of Macarage and the other minitures you had on display...and one other thing, you called us nerds, if you actually talked to alot of the people that collected warhammer then you wouldnt see 100% nerds running artound, and who caares if your a nerd, were doing better than you are....lol...and you cant bag out someone that is more tallented than you, if you look at the golden deamon einners, you would see y they won them, cause they have a tellent, and it does not involve butt wiping...which we all know, is your proffesion.

BDA

BloodDeathAssault wrote:ok for a starters you seemed to go to alot of effort to bag out a company that makes more money than you will in a life time then you, and clearly its not only guys that collest warhammer, if you visoted a golden deamon then you would see as many guys as girls there and there are clearly millions of people that collect this, "not girlfriend hobby" as you say and were does world of warcraft wome into warhammer, and if you hate warhammer so much wy did you wast money buying the Battle Of Macarage and the other minitures you had on display...and one other thing, you called us nerds, if you actually talked to alot of the people that collected warhammer then you wouldnt see 100% nerds running artound, and who caares if your a nerd, were doing better than you are....lol...and you cant bag out someone that is more tallented than you, if you look at the golden deamon einners, you would see y they won them, cause they have a tellent, and it does not involve butt wiping...which we all know, is your proffesion.

BDA

NERD SPOTTED. Trigger, get that locker open while I hoist him up by his tighty whities.

Iorek wrote: the biggest problem with playing games is that you have to play with gamers.

True dat!

I guess you don't go in for irony much BDA?

Kilkrazy wrote:Surely the shrinkage in the US market (in previous years) argues that people did know of GW and lost interest.

That just means that fewer people joined the hobby then left it. Had GW advertised and thus encouraged more people to join, the trend might have been reversed.
Ask around at your work how many people have heard of 40K. You'll find the number around 10% even among men.

Osbad wrote:I don't want to go overboard.

Too late. Seriously fellas, it was just a piece of infotainment. They run with a couple of simple jokes and give a basic overview of the product. They decided 'geeks are geeky!' would work well when talk about a product marketed to geeks. It wasn't all that funny but it was hardly offensive. Lighten up a little.

BloodDeathAssault wrote:ok for a starters you seemed to go to alot of effort to bag out a company that makes more money than you will in a life time then you, and clearly its not only guys that collest warhammer, if you visoted a golden deamon then you would see as many guys as girls there and there are clearly millions of people that collect this, "not girlfriend hobby" as you say and were does world of warcraft wome into warhammer, and if you hate warhammer so much wy did you wast money buying the Battle Of Macarage and the other minitures you had on display...and one other thing, you called us nerds, if you actually talked to alot of the people that collected warhammer then you wouldnt see 100% nerds running artound, and who caares if your a nerd, were doing better than you are....lol...and you cant bag out someone that is more tallented than you, if you look at the golden deamon einners, you would see y they won them, cause they have a tellent, and it does not involve butt wiping...which we all know, is your proffesion.

BDA

Spell-check. Grammar-check. Punctuation-check.

PLEASE follow standard English composition guidelines when posting on Dakka. This sort of post makes it very, very difficult to understand you.

It is saturday go to your local GW store. you will find some people with some social skills that are questionable. including poor fashion and hygiene choices.
on the brightside our hobby on a whole isn't as bad as online gamers. The joys of games like warcraft is that some off the people that used to play in the early/mid 90's don't any more.
this is a hobby of nerds. If you play you are a nerd. you may be the coolest of the nerds but society still classifies you as a nerd.

Warhammer is Warcraft!!! Anyone else wonder about this? It amazes me that there are such people in this world who don't care to research time frames. When did warcraft come out? When did the personal computer come out? 1970s my #$%.

"And we all know that nerds aren't fashionable" This is true, but I think my jeans/t-shirt are a bit more upscale that your track suit. I make the effort to at least look like I didn't just wake up at about 2 pm on a sat and threw on whatever was on the floor. Though I suppose in some odd way that's a fashionable look.

Her cloaked comment of, "Haha! You're all nerds!" reminds me that most of the world act like children.

Annoyance.

Any one been to a Games Day? She's not far wrong...
Mick

ok for a starters you seemed to go to alot of effort to bag out a company that makes more money than you will in a life time then you, and clearly its not only guys that collest warhammer, if you visoted a golden deamon then you would see as many guys as girls there and there are clearly millions of people that collect this, "not girlfriend hobby" as you say and were does world of warcraft wome into warhammer, and if you hate warhammer so much wy did you wast money buying the Battle Of Macarage and the other minitures you had on display...and one other thing, you called us nerds, if you actually talked to alot of the people that collected warhammer then you wouldnt see 100% nerds running artound, and who caares if your a nerd, were doing better than you are....lol...and you cant bag out someone that is more tallented than you, if you look at the golden deamon einners, you would see y they won them, cause they have a tellent, and it does not involve butt wiping...which we all know, is your proffesion.

BDA

DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD!!!! UNTIE

BloodDeathAssault wrote:ok for a starters you seemed to go to alot of effort to bag out a company that makes more money than you will in a life time then you, and clearly its not only guys that collest warhammer, if you visoted a golden deamon then you would see as many guys as girls there and there are clearly millions of people that collect this, "not girlfriend hobby" as you say and were does world of warcraft wome into warhammer, and if you hate warhammer so much wy did you wast money buying the Battle Of Macarage and the other minitures you had on display...and one other thing, you called us nerds, if you actually talked to alot of the people that collected warhammer then you wouldnt see 100% nerds running artound, and who caares if your a nerd, were doing better than you are....lol...and you cant bag out someone that is more tallented than you, if you look at the golden deamon einners, you would see y they won them, cause they have a tellent, and it does not involve butt wiping...which we all know, is your proffesion.

BDA

Unless you meant to go to http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~wisam/ and are having a misclick adventure with Google, I am 100% positive that everyone visiting this site is a nerd. Chicks can be nerds too. So can successful people. So can the smelly, sweaty guy that cheats to beat 9 year olds. 'Nerd' is a very general label.

Furthermore, I lost whatever point you were trying to make in the midst of your poor spelling and horri-bad run-on sentences.

yer i kinda saw that the next day i went on to dakka, but all i can say was, drinking does that to ya

BDA

skavenfreak wrote:

ok for a starters you seemed to go to alot of effort to bag out a company that makes more money than you will in a life time then you, and clearly its not only guys that collest warhammer, if you visoted a golden deamon then you would see as many guys as girls there and there are clearly millions of people that collect this, "not girlfriend hobby" as you say and were does world of warcraft wome into warhammer, and if you hate warhammer so much wy did you wast money buying the Battle Of Macarage and the other minitures you had on display...and one other thing, you called us nerds, if you actually talked to alot of the people that collected warhammer then you wouldnt see 100% nerds running artound, and who caares if your a nerd, were doing better than you are....lol...and you cant bag out someone that is more tallented than you, if you look at the golden deamon einners, you would see y they won them, cause they have a tellent, and it does not involve butt wiping...which we all know, is your proffesion.

BDA

DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD!!!! UNTIE

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I'm sorry. I laughed at it. I think the voice-over wasn't horribly funny and a little overdone, but I must admit I laughed out loud at it.

I think it was intended to inject a little humor into a subject that many people find kind of dry. I think it is possible that a few of the people producing this play or have played miniatures and even may have come up with some of the little jabs at gamers.

I also wonder if the Warcraft "error" wasn't meant as humor that just didn't go over too well. Otherwise why wasn't it just edited out? I also got the impression the track suit was part of the joke, though I might be reading more into that than I should.

I really don't see any endorsement by GW here. I don't really know how this works as I do not work in media, but I imagine that GW may have sent some of their product over to get exposure and provide a visual to the audience of what they're selling ( I doubt the target audience is familiar with the product).

I myself think it is unfair that some of these store that she mentions got closed. our local GW store here in colorado got closed last month yet in the us it was ranked second in sales next to the baltimore Battle bunker. go figure....

Triggerbaby wrote:Bearded, morbidly obese pimple hoarders with self-diagnosed aspersers. Lanky, long haired only-childs in unwashed black t-shirts concealed in a miasma of body odor. Obnoxious, interchangable brats from the Pokemon set, blood sugar levels orbiting the moon and with insufficient Ritalin. The manga-loving striped shirt tech support NPD basket-case with a creatively interpreted rulebook always falling out of his mouth that everybody hates but returns religiously regardless of the lack of welcome, like a rotund form of mold. One dumpy girl with profound sexual abuse issues and a push-up bra who thinks Final Fantasy is deep and meaningful, just bubbling in anticipation that she might meet another sixteen people she can tell she is bisexual and how special that is. Clustered about those gaming tables is a concentration of social disorders so statistically improbable that the paleosociologists in the future will scoff condescendingly and trot out the age of the universe. Face it: the wargaming community was exactly, precisely created by God to fill the unenviable broken persons niche slightly below Renfaire beast but just above the Furries and Otherkin. You're not angry because the women is denigrating the hobby. You're angry because she's holding the mirror so close that you can see yourself snorting while you laugh at your own unsolicited Red Dwarf impressions.

This post was made with pure, unadulterated, EPIC win.



Ghidorah