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40kenthusiast wrote:How is a high S no AS weapon going to shred Sigvald? He'll gib the guy who has it with his ASF. Even if it does get through, Siggy has a Ward save (I think?) and a 5+ regen from his buddy festus. He's also probably sitting on several statline increases from EOTG.

Because he isn't that high S himself and so has a hard time against higher T/AS characters? Good luck "gibbing" a tyrant with tenderizer or a Chaos Lord, or DE with 1+ save for example. Also, something like a HE prince w/Star Lance could care less about his ASF. EOTG is very situational and no guarantee of anything. Especially if fliers/cav hit the shrines.

3 slaaneshi giants (ASF) at 3K

Actually any giant thanks to 12 inch charge a 12 inch move will be a tough poposition.
Just need to avoid all the attacks from the characters in the front rank.

Night goblins. 6x 20 'man' units with 3 fanatics each... at 2000 points you should still be able to squeeze in a coupel of giants.

Would casting word of pain from the DE book help much? Reducing to WS 1 seems to be a good idea. Not that sure what to attack with after that, maybe a flank charge with a deathstar CoK unit with ASF and hydra banner BSB and a character with the stupid 1+, inverse ward, regen combo.

well, I was wrong about some of siggy's stats. he's got seven s5 attacks w/out KB, still at silly ws. He's also got no ward save, but has honest to goodness regen instead of festus's lame handout.

You can't march block his unit though, they can always march.

Army Book nerf

A single Bloodthirster would destroy this unit. Charge it in the front, the chaos guys have to challenge, you burn them to death or chop of their heads and obsidian armor prevents Sigvald from going first or getting his extra 2 attacks. Your combat res equals or exceeds his and you've just killed either of the 2 special characters or the champ. When Sigvald dies the unit is Ld 8 and not stubborn and when festus dies they can't regen.

With most other armies I would just wait for them to come and get me. If you don't cross the starting line it will take them 4 turns to charge, turn 5 to reform and maybe another charge on turn 6...maybe. In the meantime your magic and/or shooting should have dealt with all the other little bits of his army.

That unit is a joke.

Th

Also for NGs I'd throw nets on then spam him with multiple units.

if normal rolls for 6 units at once... he should be at -5 strength.
Good luck injuring anyone.

I used to run into units like this all the time with my FS army. I just ran circles with them with my WR with their 'Banner of obscene March Blocking' (I can't remember what it's called). It stops them in their tracks so I can deal with the rest of his pitiful army.

Which part of that Deathstar allows it to always march?

Siggy, he can always march and treats all terrain as open, these abilities are conferred on any unit he joins.

This is one of the best threads here in ages.

Awesome stuff trying to kill seemingly unkillable units.

My friend is going to try this list against me today just to see how it actually plays.
In 2250 he got Siggy, Festus, and a BSB w/ Rapturous Standard (barded steed, bloodcurdling scream, halberd, and shield)
The 47 man chosen block of nurgle w/ FC, shields, halberds, and banner of rage (champ has favor of the gods)
2 Shrines
3 units of 10 naked marauders...
Comes out to 2250 exactly!

Should be fun

There was a similar thread before about various Deathstar units, but me
being inexperienced couldn't really contribute.

I believe there were Ogre ones in the thread as well as Wood Elf ones.

sigvald is stubborn yes but he does not confer this ability to any unit he joins so you will still suffer leadership penalties on his ld 10

Yeah, that's where the Banner of the Gods is useful. Still, Sigvald is the lynchpin and if he dies, it falls apart fast.

SO an Ogre tyrant with tenderiser takes on Sigvald in a unit of ironguts buffed with a few gut magic spells.

SPLAT!

In the meantime the rhinox riders flank the unit and hit the warshrines.

Problem I faced was that he had almost 3 turns to roll an 11 or 12 with 2 rolls per turn he got it on turn 2.. makingthe whole unit have a 4+ws and stubborn.. we ended up drawing. I killed siggy and 27 of the chosen..

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Dwarves...

4 cannons (every one targets a character and goes through a warshrine)
1 organ gun.
60 thunderers.
Anvil with the special character.

That guy makes it pretty much auto win vs any army though. Wasnt there a guy on Bugmans who was 100 and 1 with a generic list with that guy?