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No cover saves from markerlights. But thats not the point of the thread. You only use LOS for deciding what armor side is hit (not obscurity). I would agree its a grey area that probably will not be solved until the next tau dex. I would say their not worth their points @ Str. 8 ap 3 (ap 1 perhaps....). As to determining if a vehicle gets obscurity I would say that you would if you have wargear that provides it and would follow the rules for cover saves like normal.

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Centurian99 wrote:
I don't think you can take cover saves from markerlight hits.


Correct, cover saves are per the big red book, used to avoid taking wounds, as markerlights do not cause wounds, cover saves are meaningless against them.
   
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Ghetto_Fight wrote:DIf you look the 5th ed rules at face value and compare to Tau 4th ed codex, it looks like the enemy can get cover saves because the missile is said to be fired from the vehicle in a straight line.


The assumed to move in a straight line is only to easily determine what side of a vehicle is being hit. The seeker does not need line of site to hit so I'm assuming that it does in fact move around or through obstacles and does not really travel in a straight line. However that does not imply a negated cover save. Units being shot at with seeker missiles are still granted a cover save. As someone else posted, it might hit a branch for example.

If they have markerlights on them that affect the cover save then, it might be possible. This is from the FAQ on the GW U.S. site:

Q. With the use of markerlights used to make a cover save worse, can the cover save be negated entirely, or is 6+ the worst it can get? Likewise, what is the lowest the Leadership of a unit can be decreased to for the purposes of pinning tests?
A. In both cases, there is no maximum, so the cover save can be completely eliminated and the Ld can be lowered to the point when the unit fails the Pinning test automatically.


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