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Why isn't there more sex in 40k? Why do sm even have c**ks? They can't reproduce, and they're too busy praying in their free time to do a solo "excersize", so really what's the point of a dangler? Actually, in that case what's the point of life?

The point of life in 40k is to amuse the emperor and gods of chaos who liked playing warhammer fantasy as children.

There is more sex in 40k, I believe some sob orders are ordered to have children to supply the IG. Who says that the morning "drills" aren't what they allude to be.

Why do CSM like horns so much, are they *cough*gay*cough*?

halonachos wrote:

Why do CSM like horns so much, are they *cough*gay*cough*?

Oooh! They so horny! They ruv you rong time!

Wouldn't titans work better if they weren't on very long legs? How do they not fall over? Just 3 legs would make so much more sense

Wouldn't titans completely fail anyway?

You're a nice tall target, and if you get a decent hit anywhere on the legs it would be good as dead.

And for that matter, why so much pointing?

Lint wrote:Why isn't there more sex in 40k? Why do sm even have c**ks? They can't reproduce, and they're too busy praying in their free time to do a solo "excersize", so really what's the point of a dangler? Actually, in that case what's the point of life?

Really, coming (heeheehee COMING! ) from someone with a baby avatar that just creeps me out

Well babies and sex do go together... Wait that sounds terrible...

The titans would at least make sense if the bipedal stance meant they were more agile than a tank, but they aren't.

Why don't they attach the legs to tanks or have feet made completely out of tanks?

If gellar fields keep you safe when travelling through the warp, why don't hives etc have them to reduce the chance of chaos manifesting on an imperial world?

Why can't the life eater virus or similar be used against tyranid ships in space instead of using lasers and ordinance weapons?

How is it that city sized space ships can be built with ease but making a puny titan or baneblade is considered difficult?

Why aren't teleporters used more in battle?

When does a human become an ogryn? Do ogryns have a minimum average size because surely there must be planets with populations of every size between a "normal" human and an ogryn?

How is it that between the mechanicum and the techpriests they can keep the marines in power armour despite the (supposedly) increasing losses in battle and those becoming renegade, yet can't provide power armour for the imperial guard?

If the ability to make and service technology like plasma weapons and anti-grav vehicles is being lost, does that mean that the marines of the future will not have landspeeders and plasma canons?

How is this technology being lost when at the same time new technology is being found?

Here's what I don't understand. Space Marines are supposed to be huge but so are lots of other guys! The novels love to mention how ordinary people can be surgically reeingineered or given massive amounts of steroids to become huge and powerful and fast. Usually they end up being bodyguards for some crook or cult leader and an interrogator henchman of an Inquisitor barely takes them down or else kills them with pionics or high explosives. Fairly common mechanical enhancements can make people smarter, more loyal, better shots, and able to ignore pain. The Mechanicum likes to do stuff like that with their Skitari. For the rest you can put them in environmental armor.

So why are space marines considered so special? They seem to be rather easily duplicated (at least most features) by any world that can produce a hive (or in the case of mutants almost any world at all).

Maybe 1000 strong units with special equipment and a fortress monastary and their own fleet of barges and frigates would be hard to do, but you'd think every guard regiment and PDF unit would have a largish attachement of huge re-made/augmented guys with special training who serve as super soldiers way beyond what the so-called storm troopers can do and who can go head to head with a space marine or orc and lug heavy weapons about on one shoulder and do just fine. They could even be hypnotrained and made to fight servitors in their off hours to keep them in top shape and drill.

Mutants are hated...why? It's a huge waste.

If they took the mutants who would turn out to be naturally huge and well armored, screened them for sufficient intelligence (IQ of 95 and up), and hypno-trained them, coddeled them, educated or even brain washed the heck out of them, from a young age (while quietly chemically sterilizing them) they'd make a heck of a good fighting force! Motivate them to love the Imperium and use them then honor them. If they could isoalate those particular genes they might even stabilize those traits and create new types of useful abhumans. Why give chaos and other weirdos a ready made constituency ? Use them or lose them. Don't abuse them.

namegoeshere wrote:How can Tuvok use the same Vulcan neck grip on any Alien, surely they have sufficiently different nerve ending points for it to just not work?

LOLZ

One thing that puzzles me is that when the SMs decide to exterminate a planet's species why do they send down SM and IG? Wouldn't you just nuke the crap out of the planet? It's not like they're intending to settle there afterwards.

namegoeshere wrote:Ok obviously it is pointless questioning gw style/fluff but for this thread only = what are the things in 40k that don't make sense to you.

Giant shoulder pads - the shoulder isn't a vital organ - or a smart place to place weight, why is it so big? Just because we love the 80's?

Hmm, well the shoulder might not be vital but the heart sure is.... and last time I checked, my heart was only a few inches from my shoulder

Actually, Jackinthetank wrote the bit above but the quotey thing went wrong.

I absolutely despise, even though I am in no way, shape, or form religious, that the Emporer is pretty much our day and age Jesus or "God". I respect the religious, but it just bothers me...

-J.

I hate that Cadians are called Cadians. Every time I see it I see Canadians. Canadian Shock troops etc

All of you stop trying to put reality and 40k together. Ive seen too many good men go insane that way,I cant see anymore.


by the way fashion changes alot, maybe in the future bell bottoms have come back, and big hats are in style, and about the big armor and very off proportions, its sort of all comic book style proportions.
and if space marines were as strong as there supposed to be, even 5 could beat and apocalypse army. 1+ save 2+ invulnerable, s10 ap1 bolters, assault 35 heavy bolters.

palaeomerus wrote:Here's what I don't understand. Space Marines are supposed to be huge but so are lots of other guys! The novels love to mention how ordinary people can be surgically reeingineered or given massive amounts of steroids to become huge and powerful and fast. Usually they end up being bodyguards for some crook or cult leader and an interrogator henchman of an Inquisitor barely takes them down or else kills them with pionics or high explosives. Fairly common mechanical enhancements can make people smarter, more loyal, better shots, and able to ignore pain. The Mechanicum likes to do stuff like that with their Skitari. For the rest you can put them in environmental armor.

So why are space marines considered so special? They seem to be rather easily duplicated (at least most features) by any world that can produce a hive (or in the case of mutants almost any world at all).

Maybe 1000 strong units with special equipment and a fortress monastary and their own fleet of barges and frigates would be hard to do, but you'd think every guard regiment and PDF unit would have a largish attachement of huge re-made/augmented guys with special training who serve as super soldiers way beyond what the so-called storm troopers can do and who can go head to head with a space marine or orc and lug heavy weapons about on one shoulder and do just fine. They could even be hypnotrained and made to fight servitors in their off hours to keep them in top shape and drill.

Mutants are hated...why? It's a huge waste.

If they took the mutants who would turn out to be naturally huge and well armored, screened them for sufficient intelligence (IQ of 95 and up), and hypno-trained them, coddeled them, educated or even brain washed the heck out of them, from a young age (while quietly chemically sterilizing them) they'd make a heck of a good fighting force! Motivate them to love the Imperium and use them then honor them. If they could isoalate those particular genes they might even stabilize those traits and create new types of useful abhumans. Why give chaos and other weirdos a ready made constituency ? Use them or lose them. Don't abuse them.

You're right, why not? I mean, in the book Ice Warriors, there's a whole Hive infested with Mutants and Cultists, but the Mutants are still loyal and actually help the main characters ! About the bionics thing, I guess making all of that stuff is expensive or fiercely controlled (probably both) by some big-wigs, because only assassins are the ones that get "upgrades" on a regular basis.

-A.

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:And what's the deal with all those rivets in people's armor? Is it like in the grim darkness of the far future there is no welding?

Sigged.

it's good that 40k snipers still can't hit the heads of sargents, captains e.c.t....

Thunderhawk gunships look like a bus, with tiny chicken wings. And lots of rivets. They are the least aerodynamic flying thing ever

I have a quick question that I haven't seen anybody ask, and since we're talking about Space Marines...what exactly does the Sign of the Aquila look like that you make with your hands?

SHOULDER PADS - When I think of shoulder pads, I think of my Tau with their HUGE shoulder plates. The reason I imagine that the normal Fire Warriors have this (while pathfinders often do not), that that from a side angle, they do provide protection to a large portion of the torso. If the Fire Warriors are drawn into a "firing line" not only does it cover more of themselves, but the Fire Warriors behind them as well.

Jarran wrote:Officers/sergeants not wearing helmets- it's like asking to be shot in the head

Spikey armor- this is for CSM what if they got cought on something like a tank tread and wouldn't they unbalance the armor?

i guess you havent played gears of war

For me it's the the whole Fluff vs table thing.

Bolter
Fluff= massive damaging explosive weapons that kill squishies with area effect blasts, with several different types of ammo provided to regular marines whenever asked for.

Table=Str 4 AP 5 with only a 50% chance of wounding an ork and a 67% chance of wounding T3.

KingCracker wrote:Well Ive heard that when serial killers kill, they get a super god like high. Id imagine that following Slaanesh would increase that godlike sensation to beyond mortal emotional boundaries....

hmm... I hate how fluffwise SM are super invincible killing machines, yet playing against them with my Orks, they are mearly good at the killing part. My regular boyz mobs can kick the living gak out of SM in CC. I think they need to tone down the mega man fluff a tad.

personally I think rather than tone down the space marine fluff they need to stop the process of making battles bigger by making units cheaper. Sure making the units cheaper point wise means we have to buy more to field an army, but it goes completely against fluff.

In my opinion if marines cost like 40points a model in a basic tactical squad, and had equivilent stats the army would be much cooler.

Splinter rifle, poisoned shards of death highly propelled at a target where a single scrape sends the victim into agonizing pain.

s3 ap 5

The most advanced race in the universe had the whole star system at their finger tips.

Basic weapon max range 12"

Standing behind some rocks, a massive cannon fires a huge blast right on top of you, you have the same chance of avoiding damage as some green idiot strolls towards you with his tiny revolver.

4+ cover save.

Your in the middle of intense hand to hand fighting, you are a lone survivor against a horde of enemies slowly closing on your position.

Turn 7 the game ends in a draw.

ImperatorServat wrote:I have a quick question that I haven't seen anybody ask, and since we're talking about Space Marines...what exactly does the Sign of the Aquila look like that you make with your hands?

Cross your wrists then place your hands against your chest. Bend your thumbs.

If you do this in front of a mirror you can work out how to make it look as good as possible.

namegoeshere wrote:I hate that Cadians are called Cadians. Every time I see it I see Canadians. Canadian Shock troops etc

The early French settlers in Canada were Arcadians so there's another link for ye. I think Cadians are supposed to be some generic European army other than American. Americans are represented by the army of Rambos or AOR which is also their war cry and most commonly used word.

Thanks cadbren I figured as much but wasn't really sure.

Other things that bother me about 40K.

- Bolts (Bolter munitions) are caseless ammunition, but are always shown w/ spent shells flying everywhere.

- Orks are plants... Yet they are carnivores... That defecate.

- The Eldar are a dying race, but yet here they are approx. 25 years later... Shouldn't they have less on the army composition or shouldn't GW stop making the models to help them out?

-J.