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Warpcrafter wrote
The human mouth is already full of noxious bacteria, so what's a little plastic?

Please try to instruct yourself on the difference between bacterial dangers and TOXIC ones. Plastic is toxic in quantities and when it enters your lungs it will accumulate in there. The human body can survive most bacterial attacks BUT against toxic and carcinogenic elements it is powerless.
I work as a lithographer and i have to work with mild poisons for a living. You must never underestimate the threat posed by chemicals to your health. Try to work in a well ventilated room. And a mask while painting (especially with sprays) wouldn't be over the top.
Hope I helped

Cheese Elemental wrote:Oh yeah, hobby knives are like the new concealed carry weapon. Forget your crappy 9mms and shotguns, I've got a hobby knife! Just yesterday, I brutally slashed a helpless bodybuilder. I strung him up like a fish and gutted him with that deadly 1" blade.

And another time, I forgot my rapier when I went to fencing, so I used my hobby knife instead. I was banned after I accidentally sliced off both my opponent's arm. Man, he was bleeding like crazy! The room started filling with blood and everyone drowned but then a gay transvestite knight riding a My Little Pony (tm) came down from the sky and rescued me and took me to the magical land of candy and fluffy bunnies and homosexuality.

Then the marijuana wore off, and I was sad.

Well heres my story of eating paints !

I whas a space marine , made to kill the enemies of the emperor ! Hail him , i said as i walked towards a group of chaos termanators . We had a long lsating fight , and a lot of casulties!

When i woke up , i whas at my gaming club with lots of minatures on my chest and on the floor . My friends told be me i had been playing with them like crazy and the passed out !

Hollismason wrote:To be honest the Land of Homosexuality is not that bad ; everyone is well dressed usually and can make a hell of a margarita.

And everyone has a great haircut...

CT GAMER wrote:

Hollismason wrote:To be honest the Land of Homosexuality is not that bad ; everyone is well dressed usually and can make a hell of a margarita.

And everyone has a great haircut...

No, not everyone. Lesbians are homosexuals too...

Nurglitch wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

Hollismason wrote:To be honest the Land of Homosexuality is not that bad ; everyone is well dressed usually and can make a hell of a margarita.

And everyone has a great haircut...

No, not everyone. Lesbians are homosexuals too...

I play sisters, so I'm used to the "lipstick" variety...

Hollismason wrote:The biggest health risk is those fething Hobby Knives.

Just went to the hospital yesterday because of that, stupid black reach captain I HATE THEEEE

what happened?
did he violate you?

I once heard about some poor guy who was violated by a neckbeard.

I believe that's what's known as 'Tuesday.'

The biggest Health risk are the metal sword from lord of the rings

This happend just last week to me i dropped a load of metal swords and stepped on them it felt like a thousand needles
and the moral of the story is if youve got nothing sensible to say then dont blow youre nose on your sleve

Its fortunate that superglue makes an excellent bandage when accidently cutting yourself with a hobby knife; just put superglue on the cut after washing it under water.

So what happens when the glue has to come off? Also, have you considered what happens if glue gets in your bloodstream?

Just wash carefully around the cut where the superglue is and just leave it alone; eventually it will clot on its own. Little know fact Superglue was invented in Vietnam as a wound binder we even carry a variation of it called Dermabond on the ambulance. Its generally not toxi although some types could I guess be I dunno of any superglue that is toxic especially in that amount.

The biggest problems I've had are superglue fumes making my eyes burn. (Solution: Open the windows, who cares what the neighbors think of the motorpool on my table?)

The other one only occurs when a lot of gamers get together and THAT GUY thinks because there's a lot of us there if he doesn't bathe that day (or the week before) he'll never be pinpointed, drug out into the street and beat. He's right. I can't pinpoint who's body odor is making me want to gag (and yes, I shower daily so it's not me) but that still doesn't make it right. Prick's BO better not be carcinogenic.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Oh yeah, hobby knives are like the new concealed carry weapon. Forget your crappy 9mms and shotguns, I've got a hobby knife! Just yesterday, I brutally slashed a helpless bodybuilder. I strung him up like a fish and gutted him with that deadly 1" blade.

And another time, I forgot my rapier when I went to fencing, so I used my hobby knife instead. I was banned after I accidentally sliced off both my opponent's arm. Man, he was bleeding like crazy! The room started filling with blood and everyone drowned but then a gay transvestite knight riding a My Little Pony (tm) came down from the sky and rescued me and took me to the magical land of candy and fluffy bunnies and homosexuality.

Then the marijuana wore off, and I was sad.

Sounds more like LSD than Marijuana.

AffliKtion wrote:Hey all,
I know some of you can relate, but filing and cleaning models before I prime and paint is the biggest issue for me. I often stick small components of models in my mouth to clean them off real quick and It just occurred to me that this might not be the safest thing, minus the whole choking to death dilemma.

So this is my question; is there any health risks associated with ingesting/breathing in the plastic particles from filing the models?

Thanks.

as far as i have seen the only health risk from gw models is from the Mrs when she finds out how much you just spent on "plastic soldiers "

dog house again..............

First off, reagarding this subject - a qoute from GW -

To easily remove the plastic sprues from the steel mold during the production process, the molds are coated with a mold release agent[u]. This oil leaves a greasy residue on the first few batches, so it is a good idea to wash your sprues with warm water and a mild hand soap. (toxic)

The plastic is the least of your worries buddy.

As far as the plastics, it is a safe as chewing a straw. You'd need to eat 1500 lbs of it within 72 hours to get poisoned, but you'd be ill for other reasons within 12 hours....

Good luck!

AffliKtion wrote:I wash my sprues in soap and water before I start anything. It's not like I'm sticking whole miniatures in my mouth lol.

I have tried brushes and cups of water, but nothing works as well as rolling 'em in my mouth for a second. I don't know, Maybe it's the spit?

Gold Star for cleaning your mini's.

Maybe it's the friction from your tongue? The only time I've stuck plastic in my mouth was to speed up my superglue. I try not to glue my finger to my lip or my lips together any more..it's a heck of an exfoliant.

Brother Bartius wrote:Resin particles (filing FW stuff) is carcinogenic (spelling?).

If you burn it, yes. The bad mojo is if you inhale it, it will collect in your lungs and mess you up, but that's true about anything that fine.

Hollismason wrote:The biggest health risk is those fething Hobby Knives.

True dat! Use sharp blades so you don't have to apply insane amounts of force. Use a saw or rotary saw to cut thick stuff. If you cut yourself, you'll have to spend all that time stopping the bleeding, you might get blood on your project, it's just a major pita.

shrew wrote:If any of you use to eat paint chips from the wall when you were a kid I don't think it will be a problem.

I don't know how many IQ points I lost as a child of the 70's surrounded by lead paint, inhaling lead fumes from cars, but the worst was probably when I scraped lead paint off my mother's black velvet paintings of pink flamingos (we didn't even own a trailer, don't know why we had them), it was chewy. I just about freaked when my daughter tested positive for lead poisoning when she was a toddler, but she's got the highest score on the curriculum tests at school, so it didn't affect her.

Napalm wrote:The biggest problems I've had are superglue fumes making my eyes burn.

I built 4 Rhinos in one night, I was so sleepy, I had to bring the parts close to my eyes to focus on them. My eyelashes glued together from the fumes. They felt like velcro when I forced them open. I was even wearing glasses. Don't wear contacts while dealing with crazy glue, they will absorb the fumes and glue to your eyes or at the least, ruin the contacts or burn your eyes.

Hollismason wrote:Just wash carefully around the cut where the superglue is and just leave it alone; eventually it will clot on its own. Little know fact Superglue was invented in Vietnam as a wound binder we even carry a variation of it called Dermabond on the ambulance. Its generally not toxi although some types could I guess be I dunno of any superglue that is toxic especially in that amount.

Close. Super glue was invented during WW2 to make aircraft gun sights, but it was considered a failure. The chemist that developed it threw away a quantity and then discovered it was nearly permanently stuck to the wastecan. They were interested in it's plasticizing qualities and that it cured underwater. They used it in plumbing and in the boating industry until they figured out that people are wet inside, so they used it for suturing in Vietnam to test it. They ended up making a spray can version to seal wounds. Crazy glue is harmless once it's cured, so it doesn't have to be removed like stitches, it sloughs off with the dead tissue. Don't know where it goes in the body, but since they leave behind bullets and chunks of shrapnel anyway, the body probably develops a cyst around it. Canada and Japan approved it's use for suturing decades ago, the US FDA approved it about ten years ago. There's an OTC product called liquid bandage, it's a mild superglue flavored with clove oil to use as an antiseptic for sealing small cuts.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Oh yeah, hobby knives are like the new concealed carry weapon. Forget your crappy 9mms and shotguns, I've got a hobby knife! Just yesterday, I brutally slashed a helpless bodybuilder. I strung him up like a fish and gutted him with that deadly 1" blade.

And another time, I forgot my rapier when I went to fencing, so I used my hobby knife instead. I was banned after I accidentally sliced off both my opponent's arm. Man, he was bleeding like crazy! The room started filling with blood and everyone drowned but then a gay transvestite knight riding a My Little Pony (tm) came down from the sky and rescued me and took me to the magical land of candy and fluffy bunnies and homosexuality.

Then the marijuana wore off, and I was sad.

I knew a vet that dropped his scalpel during an autopsy once. It stuck in his leg and severed an artery. He bled out before he could reach a phone to dial 911. That story is always in the back of my mind when I'm working with xacto knives. They're not that much different than a scalpel.

Wait, filing plastic without a mask isn't dangerous, is it?

Mattlov wrote:Not really, unless you are ingesting HUGE quantities.

Resin is a little more dangerous, but again, it is required in large amounts to be really dangerous.

This is worth clarifying.

Modelling with plastic is not harmful, barting accidents, inhaling the glue fumes is the closest you get to harmful.

Modelling with metal is slightly more harmful esspecially if you use old minitures, more importanly the glue fumes are worse.

Resin modeeling IS harmful, you should wash your hands after handling unpainted resin and ALWAYS WEAR A FACE MASK if you are cutting filing or drilling resin. ALWAYS.

Are we really having this conversation? Don't put things in your mouth that don't belong there. Food and your toothbrush is pretty much it. And whistles, too. And occasionally bendy straws. Food, your toothbrush, whistles and bendy straws and nothing else. Excepting possibly corncob pipes. And envelope flaps. Food, your toothbrush, whistles, bendy straws, corncob pipes, and envelope flaps, barring everything else...

...and occasionally your significant other's naughty parts...

Food, your toothbrush, whistles, bendy straws, corncob pipes, envelope flaps and your significant other's naughty parts. Yeah. That's it.

We are having this conversation, but the point of error is your comprehension.

Resin chewing is not really the issue, its particles of resin dust that stick to the hands, and with fresh resin often the chemicals it is often coated in as part of the molding process. You ingest it indirectly.

Washing hands before meals is standard stuff, but who washes their hands before having a mug of tea and a biscuit? Ok its a small risk but its an accumulative risk, some crap get in the body and does nothing, then once you have got enough of it you get an effect, often a nasty one.