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I think my favourite film is the one they didn't make, Aliens: Earthwar, instead they chose to make alien3. I wanted to sees a huge hive rising out of devastated cities and people desperately struggling to survive as continents were overrun by the xenomorphs, until humans were forced from the surface of the earth. Would have been a hell of a movie.

See, the Xenomorphs aren't the sort of species that tries to overrun you. They'll sneak around and find backdoors, and wouldn't last long if they tried invading. Good luck with that invasion when the military is waiting.

The only reason the Xenomorphs spread so easily in Requiem was because they had a lot of unsuspecting hosts and the military had no warning whatsoever. Remember that they ended up nuking the city to get rid of them because they'd never have been able to track them all down in a dark, confined battlefield.

That ending was surpringly similar to Resident Evil: Apocalpse.

Military can wait all it wants, can shoot hundreds or thousands and still you got facehuggers getting into sewers, infecting humans, animals. Military could not have held them back, they would have overrun the earth easily once a queen was laying on the surface and hidden in the Amazonian rainforest or in ancient catacombs beneath Rome or under the sewers of New York or the Russian forests.

They would overrun the earth, swathes of them would be destroyed but once established on the planet, they would kill all animal life larger than rodents in short order.

I don't think it would fit with the theme of Alien anyway, and that's what I hated about Requiem. The Xenomorphs just don't go nuts and try to kill everyone they can, they try to gather hosts for the chestbursters and nourish the hive. They never seemed like the kind of alien that appears in numbers.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I think my favourite film is the one they didn't make, Aliens: Earthwar, instead they chose to make alien3. I wanted to sees a huge hive rising out of devastated cities and people desperately struggling to survive as continents were overrun by the xenomorphs, until humans were forced from the surface of the earth. Would have been a hell of a movie.

I agree , in the book whole earth military couldnt beat the Aliens , they lured the aliens into a spot and nuked them
still aliens didnt die.

It would be an epic movie , but i doubt they had the budget to make it to that scale . So we are stuck with Alien R -_-

@Cheese , Aliens dont fear death , nor are they dumb and suicidal without a purpose .They wont "over run" things when they know they are outnumbered on a new environment.

I guess this is the place to post this. Ridley Scott has been confirmed as Director of the Alien prequel in the works.

Link please?

Lord-Loss wrote:Link please?

Links for the lazy.

Ahtman wins thread yet again.

I have been inspired by this thread to make a new thread, please post in it.

OK, where is it.

person person wrote:OK, where is it.

Right here.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/250560.page

I'll just leave this here.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/

i still believe in Ahtman's link!

Link to different movie all together. A new sequel to Predator.

Cheese Elemental wrote:And what was with the totally docile xenomorph at the end?

It's because the original concept for the Alien lifecycle was it:
Emerged
Laid an Egg
Found a host
Laid down to die

The idea was it had a very short lifespan (like some insects), would reproduce once (maybe twice) by creating an egg, and finding a host, and then would lay down and die. That's why it's hiding in the shuttle - it's at the end of its lifecycle.

In the extra scenes, after setting the ship to self-destruct, Ripley finds the Alien's nest in the bottom of the ship. Dallas is near death and entombed into the wall. What's left of Brett is being transformed into an egg and facehugger (to infect Dallas).

When James Cameron was given the green light on Aliens, he was told that he could do whatever he wanted with the Alien lifecycle. He created the Queen, and the idea that the Warriors could be dormant for long periods. He originally wanted to include Drones in the movie, but they were dropped from the final script. And, because they had cut some of the extra scenes from Alien, he could get away with it because it didn't appear to contradict the first movie.

AvP was on FX last night, and I watched some of it again. Is it just me, or are people infected, killed by the chestburster, and a full-grown Alien grows - in the period of an hour or so? When in the first film, it took like a day or so.

-You're correct Dietrich.

-I always thought it was just sleeping in the escape pod, as the only place on the ship that wasn't going craptacular at the end. Doesn't its jaws go in and out like its dreaming? I didn't quite get what her plan was though.

And another thing about AvP. The Predators need human hosts to hatch Aliens to hunt. And, in the first Predator movie, there's mention that it only hunts in the hot summers (which I took to mean it's probably cold-blooded, since it looks somewhat reptilian). But, the Predators put a temple in Antarctica - which has no people, and being freezing cold, isn't very hospitable to a cold-blooded creature. Or is the temple supposed to be sooooo old, that it was on Antarctica when its land mass (which isn't really that much, it's mostly ice) was near the equator?

And another thing. AvP is supposed to be current. But, afaik, there's a ban on carrying weapons to Antarctica. And why do you take assault rifles on an archealogical dig in an unpopulated area?

Anyway, back to Alien. I also think that in an earlier draft of the script, they find that the Alien had raided their food locker. The idea being that it takes a lot of calories to grow from something that weighs maybe 5 pounds at birth to something that's 7 foot tall. And, there was also an earlier draft where after Ripley blows the creature out the airlock and climbs into her hypersleep capsule, the camera pans around the shuttle and you find an egg tucked back behind where the Alien was napping.

dietrich wrote:And another thing about AvP. The Predators need human hosts to hatch Aliens to hunt. And, in the first Predator movie, there's mention that it only hunts in the hot summers (which I took to mean it's probably cold-blooded, since it looks somewhat reptilian). But, the Predators put a temple in Antarctica - which has no people, and being freezing cold, isn't very hospitable to a cold-blooded creature. Or is the temple supposed to be sooooo old, that it was on Antarctica when its land mass (which isn't really that much, it's mostly ice) was near the equator?

Yep, its supposed to be that old that it predates our earliest societies.

And another thing. AvP is supposed to be current. But, afaik, there's a ban on carrying weapons to Antarctica. And why do you take assault rifles on an archealogical dig in an unpopulated area?

When you have big bucks, laws are just guidelines. Thats pretty accurate.

Anyway, back to Alien. I also think that in an earlier draft of the script, they find that the Alien had raided their food locker. The idea being that it takes a lot of calories to grow from something that weighs maybe 5 pounds at birth to something that's 7 foot tall. And, there was also an earlier draft where after Ripley blows the creature out the airlock and climbs into her hypersleep capsule, the camera pans around the shuttle and you find an egg tucked back behind where the Alien was napping.

First is definite in the novelization. Second I had not heard of before.

Frazzled wrote:

dietrich wrote:And, there was also an earlier draft where after Ripley blows the creature out the airlock and climbs into her hypersleep capsule, the camera pans around the shuttle and you find an egg tucked back behind where the Alien was napping.

Second I had not heard of before.

There's a spot in the end score that's supposed to coincide with its appearance onscreen. Allegedly, it was cut at the last minute to have an 'uplifting' ending, but the music was already done. I've watched it, but I can't tell 'where' it was supposed to appear.

I guess what strikes me about AvP, and to some extent Alien Resurrection, is they were somewhat cartoony. There was gore and violence, but it wasn't the same as the gore and violence of the first film. The second film still had some horror, but it wasn't as terrifying as the first either. Alien and Aliens were well-done films, but they were also well thought-out. The scripts didn't rely on people being stupid. There was some motive given to the creatures, they weren't just mindless killers.

I'm excited to see what Ridley Scott does with a prequel. I can't think of a Scott film that I didn't like, although I also don't seek out his work.

Ayah I've enjoyed every film I've seen him do except Kingdom of Heaven.

From imdb.com, he's directed the folowing list:

I've like Alien, Blade Runner, Thelma and Louise, and Blackhawk Down.
Thought 'meh': Black Rain and Gladiator
Didn't like: GI Jane (but that probably has more to do with Demi Moore being the star) and Hannibal

Haven't seen the rest. I think that I have American Gangster on DVD (on sale at Target!), but haven't watched it. Might dig it out this weekend to watch, I didn't realize it was a Scott film. I think Scott is a good director, and I think the movies that I rank as 'meh' or didn't like were more to do with other factors (plot, cast, etc.) than the direction.

Body of Lies (2008)
American Gangster (2007)
A Good Year (2006)
All the Invisible Children (2005) (segment "Jonathan")
... aka Les enfants invisibles (France)
Kingdom of Heaven (2005)
... aka El reino de los cielos (Spain)
... aka Königreich der Himmel (Germany)
Matchstick Men (2003)
Cinema16: British Short Films (2003) (V)
Black Hawk Down (2001)
Hannibal (2001)
Gladiator (2000)
G.I. Jane (1997)
White Squall (1996)
1492: Conquest of Paradise (1992)
... aka 1492 (Australia)
... aka 1492: Christophe Colomb (France)
... aka 1492: La conquête du paradis
... aka 1492: La conquista del paraíso (Spain)
Thelma & Louise (1991)
... aka Thelma & Louise (France)
Black Rain (1989/I)
Someone to Watch Over Me (1987)
Legend (1985)
... aka Legend: Ultimate Edition (USA: reissue title (video title))
Blade Runner (1982)
... aka Blade Runner: The Final Cut (International: English title: DVD title)
Alien (1979)
... aka Alien: The Director's Cut (USA: director's cut)
The Duellists (1977)



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When I posted this Poll, I figured it'd be close between Alien and Aliens, with everything else a distant third. Aliens FTW by a large margin. And, I'm surprised that AvP is pretty close to Alien. I wonder how the demographics break out.

Films I saw or know of:
(I heard GI Jane was pretty awful though. I’m shocked he did that.


American Gangster (2007) heard this was good.

Kingdom of Heaven (2005) period costumes good but didn’t like movie at all.

Matchstick Men (2003) AWESOME FILM loved it.

Black Hawk Down (2001) excellent.
Gladiator (2000) loved it but not historically accurate.
G.I. Jane (1997) heard really really sucked.
Thelma & Louise (1991) decent but didn’t like.
Black Rain (1989/I) really liked this. “You made the rain black.”
Blade Runner (1982) good one.

Alien (1979) the king baby

The Duellists (1977) saw parts. Liked. Heard is a genre maker like alien

GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER!


^ Don't know why I liked that line so much but its out of my fav movie of the franchise, Aliens.

Ridley Scott tends to make 'artsy' movies, imho. I think they are always pretty movies, but that doesn't mean that I always like them (a lot like other art forms). And, I don't know if that's the direction or other factors (subject, plot, cast).

Aliens defiinitely had much more memorable one-liners. Bill Paxton made that movie.

Aliens! Coz Vasquez is in it...