Terrorfex/horrorfex NOT effecting ORK fearless units.

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**kill dem stunties**

Would a mod please come delete all this spam from gwar and others? They continue to contribute nothing to this discussion and repeatedly violate the first tenet of this forum.

You still have yet to list any page numbers that contradict anything i have shown, The passage of pinning the secondary clause is telling you how to make the pinning test, unless you think that a weirdboy in a mob on 11+ auto passes all psychic checks?

**Thor665**

A bit of a straw man here; I don't think anyone is claiming that mobs auto pass leadership tests. We (at least I) do believe that they autopass leadership tests that cause pinning - also known as pinning tests/checks.

**Gwar!**

kill dem stunties wrote:Would a mod please come delete all this spam from gwar and others?

Protip: If you want to get a mod, why not try the Alert button. It is there for a reason.

Protip2: Try and post a bit more before crying that person XYZ does not agree with you.

Protip3: Thor665 is still correct

**Mannahnin**

KDSs, you seem to be missing the meaning of the following statement:

Not all dogs are Collies. But all Collies are dogs.

Not all leadership tests are pinning tests, but all pinning tests are leadership tests.

A pinning test is a sub-set of the larger set of leadership tests. The horrorfex makes the unit take an LD test or become pinned. This is the exact same thing as a pinning test.

I also recommend you review Willybstyle's last few posts. He pretty much killed the whole argument.

**willydstyle**

Just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't mean that their posts are "spam."

You still have yet to give us page numbers that tell us what "become pinned" means, in the rules of the game.

You either get to use the FAQ that describes it, and also invalidates the use of 'fexes on fearless units.

Or you don't use the FAQ and your 'fexes are obsolete wargear.

**Malecus**

Thor665 sums up my thoughts relevant to this thread so nicely that all I have to do is post this to say that I concur. All the rules lawyers behind my banner agree to this.

**Gwar!**

Malecus wrote:Thor665 sums up my thoughts relevant to this thread so nicely that all I have to do is post this to say that I concur. All the rules lawyers behind my banner agree to this.

You get behind MY banner good sir! I was supporting him before you were... [goes on an old man ramble about snow, glass and uphill]

**Malecus**

@Gwar!: Ah, but I'm an ork! And my 10 leadership and fearlessness both believe I was first! And you can't pen down any argument to the contrary ("pen down"/"pin down"... I made a thread relevant funny)

**Gwar!**

You iz mukin about iz wot!

On an On Topic Note:
Thor665 is still correct

**Thor665**

For the record you can both be my minions. Today Dakka, tomorrow...hopefully a nice pint o' Guinness.

**Iago**

I am of agreement. The horrorfex does Not do anything vs fearless units... if you argue that it does... then it does nothing because there is no such thing as "pinned" in the BBB.
Then you can argue that the FAQ's say that pinned has been put in there. Then I can react in one of two ways: the Horror works but as a pinning test, ergo fearless units are immune. OR... I say that FAQ's are not official, (because they are not) and now you are in a pickle.

Anyhow, nothing that I have said right now has not been said before.

Grrr

**kuro_khan**

i've always played that fearless are immune to horrorfexi, and won't fight it if things continue to be ruled this way. However comma I will go over the rules of the gun with an opponent before every game and see how he sees it.

**Iron_Chaos_Brute**

I agree with the position of Thor665.

**Che-Vito**

dnecro wrote:
roofs

we also play games outside so whats that???

It's a cave troll!!!

**Lorek**

This question has been conclusively answered, and ending it with a pic of a cave troll just seems really cool.

Locking thread.