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Whenever you look in the mirror are you proud of the person looking back at you?

Preach it dogma!

Never put a sock in a toaster

Life without freedom is not life but a plea for liberty.

Knowledge without wisdom is fool's gold.

We can live without religion but we need spirituality that confirms the worth of Earth, ourselves, and others within a framework of freedom that guards the innocent from hostile minds seeking power for power's sake.

It's not a question of the group or the individual but how the group and individual co-operate together so neither is harmed.

Zombies and ninja for the win.

Lord-Loss wrote:

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:"Life is a highway, and I wanna ride her, all night long."

Now its a funny comment

Way to ruin a Rascal Flats song.

Red9 wrote:I'm here to question and challenge, do humor me.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Sin does not equate to evil.

It is far better to live in blissful ignorance than fearful knowledge.

Superiority is subjective.

How is sin not evil?

Ignorance is better than knowledge? That explains America pretty well then.

Superiority is superiority, implying that inferiority is a strength is lying to oneself. Value on the other hand is subjective, which is what I believe you are trying to say.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Don't Tread On Me.

That's a Yank thing ya git!

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:
"When the power of Love is as great as the love of Power, there will be peace."

"And low, a revelation. To be myself, Fate would be generous in it's rewards."

@ the first one: Nonsense, I see this take place everyday and yet we still have no peace.
@the second one: Poetic nonsense, soothing words arranged to mean nothing.

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You all (save Ahtman) are a bunch of stargazers, keep your feet on the ground and your head out of the clouds.

Obviously you've never heard of an idealist.

Only when those who lead stop there pursuit of weapons/power/money/ etc. and focus on improving the state of important things well there be peaceis what the first one means.

As for my second one

You only read the poetic tone of it, not it's meaning, making you look like a fool.

It means that though I may not always be rewarded by others for being myself, I well always be rich in that I've made myself proud by living up to my morals and standards.

Let me establish this now, I'm not attacking any of you, however I am disagreeing with what some of you live by.

dogma wrote:
Superiority is only a meaningful word when considered in context. Hence, superiority is subjective. Its a statement of value with specific reference to strength, or ability.

It seems you don't know what he's trying to say, or even what you've said.

Look up the meaning of superior. It's absolute, not subjective, and it's a general usage, not specific. Example: What makes a Space Marine inferior to a guardsman?

dogma wrote:
I think you're simply reading the poetic tone, and concluding that the statement has no meaning. That's usually considered a horribly amateur mistake.

"It has been revealed to me that, if I act in accordance with my desires, I will be rewarded."

That's what the statement means, and its hardly meaningless. Its an elementary concept; basically "do what you want". But its hardly meaningless.

It's a self fufilling prophecy, pointless and nothing but a feel good. A means to do whatever you want because you feel it's right, free of negative consequences.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:
Obviously you've never heard of an idealist.

I do hate when people use this line. You either make yourself look to be smarter than you are if they don't know what <topic> is, OR you look like a slow when the person you say that to has a Bachelor's degree in philosophy (minored in sociology) like I do.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:
Only when those who lead stop their pursuit of weapons/power/money/etc. and focus on improving the state of important things, will there be peace is what the first one means.

As for my second one

You only read the poetic tone of it, not it's meaning, making you look like a fool.

It means that though I may not always be rewarded by others for being myself, I well always be rich in that I've made myself proud by living up to my morals and standards.

1) Important things, like what? Who decides what is important? You? Me? Mob rule? FSM?

2) A fancy way of saying "I decide what's important/valuable/right and to hell with everyone else."

Your first says to be selfless, your second says to be selfish. I'm the fool?

"The end justifyies the mean"

"A world without woman, wine and song dosen't make you live longer, just makes it seem longer"

I used to be a right-wing conservative of the "Peace through power" mold and all that however most that say those types of things only want only want peace through inflexible control and repression.

I am now an Anarchist. Not the "social terrorist" version but of the idea that once we master ourselves we no longer have a need for government. I guess it's more of a goal.

I am also somewhat of a closet nihilist.

I know what you may be thinking but I did not say I have mastered myself. Only that I want to.

Life is like a card game, sometimes you get dealt a good hand, sometimes you are dealt a bad hand. Those that dare can sometimes exchange their cards in the hopes of getting a better hand, sometimes your gamble leave's you with a worse hand.


No matter what, you can't please everyone, so don't try and just do your best.


No matter how bad you think things are, there's always someone else in the world with worse problems than you. ( there are certain times where saying this is liable to get you lynched such as family deaths but otherwise holds true )


Some say the glass is half full, others say the glass is half empty, I say, who you hell has been drinking my water?
( my other response if people ask me this is to ask "was it filled or was it drunk from?" this always ruins their fun, but hey, I'm an awkward sod )


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Always agree to do lots of tasks, that way you will appear to be very busy, when someone ask's you about said job, tell them you remember discussing the topic but not agreeing to do anything, offer a glimmer of hope that if left alone you may do the task ... ... and repeat.

Kudos if anyone knows where I got this from.

Dont go to the US
Do to othres what you want done to you
Play loads of Warhammer

And of course:
"Dig what you dig. Don't take any fool's madness, just dig what you dig." - Corey Taylor

Treat your life for what it's worth and live for every breath.

You need to accept the fact that there are some things in this world that are unacceptable. Only then will you have the courage to keep your footing in the maelstrom that is life.
-Me, paraphrasing Corey Taylor's concept of the Slipknot (The metaphor for the band, not the band itself). That Corey Taylor dude is one deep thinker...

GoFenris wrote:I used to be a right-wing conservative of the "Peace through power" mold and all that however most that say those types of things only want only want peace through inflexible control and repression.

I am now an Anarchist. Not the "social terrorist" version but of the idea that once we master ourselves we no longer have a need for government. I guess it's more of a goal.

I am also somewhat of a closet nihilist.

I know what you may be thinking but I did not say I have mastered myself. Only that I want to.

QFT, GoFenris. This is what 75% of my rants in Dakka OT are about. Nail on the head.
In case you're curious: The other 25% consist of furries, batman, kilts, neck beards, and Frazzled in a bathtub full of bananas.

Red9 wrote:Let me establish this now, I'm not attacking any of you, however I am disagreeing with what some of you live by.

I am going to choose to ignore this. Not because the debate is without merit, but I have made a new resolution for Halloween: Actually paying attention to my Corey Taylor quote. More hurr , less flaming rants
So dig what you dig, Red, but tread carefully. Let other people dig what they dig, too. People really hate it when you piss all over their ideals... Not saying that is what you were doing... Just saying... I speak from experience...

Red9 wrote:
You all (save Ahtman) are a bunch of stargazers, keep your feet on the ground and your head out of the clouds.

Oh, stop being so dull. There's nothing wrong with thinking with your heart as well as your head.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Red9 wrote:
You all (save Ahtman) are a bunch of stargazers, keep your feet on the ground and your head out of the clouds.

Oh, stop being so dull. There's nothing wrong with thinking with your heart as well as your head.

Apparently there is...

Red9 wrote:I do hate when people use this line. You either make yourself look to be smarter than you are if they don't know what <topic> is, OR you look like a slow when the person you say that to has a Bachelor's degree in philosophy (minored in sociology) like I do.

I would hazard a guess that Red9 fancies himself a realist. Sure, why not, but the odds of him being a holistic realist are very low.

I can build many boxes too, but my box is better than your box, but it actually isn't better than your box, but it has more boxes in it than your box actually. I like to keep it simple, like the fact that when you run into walls, you hit them, and when you kick boulders they hurt your foot. Anything beyond that is superfluous, and no less than icing on the cake.



Here are some words of true wisdom indeed.

frgsinwntr wrote:Never put a sock in a toaster

Truly masterful, I feel the need to sig that now.

Oh, forget it, no point arguing with a realist or a pessimist.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Oh, forget it, no point arguing with a realist or a pessimist.

In case it was not clear mate, I was taking the piss out of the fact that he felt the need to flash us with his degrees.

Moving along though, wait, did you just call me a pessimist? I have been called a nihlist, and a communist, and a alien from the planet mars (that is pluto to you punk), but, wait, I have been called a pessimist before. If I need to label myself, I suppose I would automatically call myself an anarchist, because I just do not care about labels.

Wrexasaur wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:Oh, forget it, no point arguing with a realist or a pessimist.

In case it was not clear mate, I was taking the piss out of the fact that he felt the need to flash us with his degrees.

Moving along though.

Oh, I was talking about arguing with Red9. I've never met someone who's a realist to the extent that they dismiss emotionally influenced writing.

lol, just caught up with this thread and the word pretentious comes to mind.
Man, lighten up.

Sinister Brain wrote:lol, just caught up with this thread and the word pretentious comes to mind.
Man, lighten up.

Pretentious? Moi?

Cheese Elemental wrote:Oh, I was talking about arguing with Red9. I've never met someone who's a realist to the extent that they dismiss emotionally influenced writing.

Sorry then, I got a bit confused about that, never mind the last part that I added to that post.

I am not a big fan of what Red9 is doing, but I suppose it really doesn't matter. The borderline ad hominem from him is getting old though.

Killing is wrong, and bad.

There should be a new, stronger word for killing. Like "badwrong", or "badong". YES, killing is badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of killing... gnodab.

Orkeosaurus wrote:Killing is wrong, and bad.

There should be a new, stronger word for killing. Like "badwrong", or "badong". YES, killing is badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of killing... gnodab.

Don't ever change, bro.

Red9 wrote:
Look up the meaning of superior. It's absolute, not subjective, and it's a general usage, not specific. Example: What makes a Space Marine inferior to a guardsman?

What makes an apple superior to an orange? Nothing, because the objects in question are not comparable. If comparability must be established, then relativity is necessarily a component of your statement. You are wrong.

Red9 wrote:
It's a self fufilling prophecy,

No, not really.

Red9 wrote:
pointless and nothing but a feel good. A means to do whatever you want because you feel it's right, free of negative consequences.

No, not free of negative consequences. That's your projection from a stance of linguistic preference. Try again, freshman.

Red9 wrote:OR you look like a slow when the person you say that to has a Bachelor's degree in philosophy (minored in sociology) like I do.

You should probably get your money back. Just sayn'.

dogma wrote:What makes an apple superior to an orange?

I do. And after that, I bring equality to all fruits.

Get paid and then get laid!

Any holes a goal.... j/k I knew a guy whos motto seemed to be this.

Lungs you cant take em with you.

Do unto others as they would do unto me but much moreso.

G

The universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be missed.

Fateweaver wrote:Get paid and then get laid!

You're a male prostitute?


I kid, I kid.