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Evil is willingly being a drain upon your friends and loved ones, sucking them dry for every ounce of compassion, love, and faithfulness they have--and then dropping them like a candy wrapper when they can't muster up sympathy even once for your so-called tragic day (Oh what a horrible thing! Your cat chewed on your shoe and made a scratch?! My god. It's worse than the Holocaust sweetie!).
Not really a fan of the word evil. It's tossed around far too much by the media and absolves us of having to understand how the "evil" person got to that point in the first place.
That said, some things really can't be excused. Don't really want to talk about it, but certain internet videos of executions by middle eastern terrorists spring to mind.
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sebster wrote:
Atheism is like religion in this sense, as it is looking to answer a question about what is beyond the observable, material world, albeit instead of answering ‘God’, it answers with ‘nothing’ . And it is testable by personal faith, just like any other religion.
Not to be pedant (well, maybe a small one), but atheism doesn't really answer that question with 'nothing' (materialism does that). It answers with 'not God'.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Apart from that... well, this one could run and run. It seems to be turning into a Religion thread - my fault, probably! I'll continue to read this thread, but I honestly couldn't say what 'evil' is definitively - I guess it's relative - so if anyone cares to talk religion, PM me or let's start another thread and sort this out once and for all .
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Kanluwen wrote:Evil is willingly being a drain upon your friends and loved ones, sucking them dry for every ounce of compassion, love, and faithfulness they have--and then dropping them like a candy wrapper when they can't muster up sympathy even once for your so-called tragic day (Oh what a horrible thing! Your cat chewed on your shoe and made a scratch?! My god. It's worse than the Holocaust sweetie!).
Nope. Not bitter at all about something.
Perhaps we should direct you to the Monster Cats thread?
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After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
War of all sorts involves 'evils' - whether its conducted in line with the various conventions, or terrorism (which is still war, just not restricted to the military). Some acts are more 'evil' than others - blowing up civilians as opposed to targeting military bases, torturing people for information. All of these 'evil' acts are done for a reason (that the perpetrator considers is a good reason).
But in my personal view, true evil is the malicous inflicting of pain on another for your own pleasure. At its simplest its teasing the kid with the birthmark at school, at its darkest its kidnapping and abusing a girl in your basement for 18 years.
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Kanluwen wrote:Evil is willingly being a drain upon your friends and loved ones, sucking them dry for every ounce of compassion, love, and faithfulness they have--and then dropping them like a candy wrapper when they can't muster up sympathy even once for your so-called tragic day (Oh what a horrible thing! Your cat chewed on your shoe and made a scratch?! My god. It's worse than the Holocaust sweetie!).
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:According to Francisco d' Aconia, evil is a man without purpose. Rand liked her characters to be obsessed with work though.
I deny this definition completely.
Pol Pot had a purpose.
The H guy had a purpose.
Stalin had a purpose.
Barney the Dinosaur has a purpose. It is a dark one...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Holy gak, it looks like I missed this thread... Better late than never. To me, evil is just a word that was created to judge others. Every person and culture has their own definition.
sebster wrote:In this way religion has exactly nothing to do with science. They are not in competition, instead they are entirely unrelated. One looks to explain the material world, and the other looks to describe what is beyond it.
I politely disagree. Why can't they both be connected? I have always thought that magic (any extraordinary or mystical influence, charm, power, etc.) is just something science hasn't explained yet. I see it as duality, you can't have one without each other, just like how you can't have light without darkness. It is not "either one, or the other." Light and darkness mix to create gray, most people think this gray area is taboo, that it is a bad thing. I think that if people can accept the fact that the answer could be gray, people could walk hand in hand with clear minds. Thoughts would be harmonious like the rhythm or wind chimes...
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Ayn Rand believed the only good human being is a completely selfish human being. She then set forth to open the world's eyes, sharing her knowledge with them. In the process, she became everything she fought against; someone trying to help the unwashed masses.
She is more ironic than evil.
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What is evil? All depends on what you think good is. They both depend on each other and we can't have one without the other.
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tblock1984 wrote:To me, evil is just a word that was created to judge others.
Ain't nothin wrong with judging others.
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
Casting darkness, deep inside your mind
Screaming razors, resonating down your spine
Wearing you down, I'll haunt you where you sleep
Vulnerable, I make the guilt sting
Fear of the dark Bathe the world in spite, it keeps you in place
Growing nervous Abused humiliated, naked and ashamed
I will find you My mouth is full of ruin, I breathe it into you
Princess chaos I'll set the world on fire, I'm gunna start with you
tblock1984 wrote:To me, evil is just a word that was created to judge others.
Ain't nothin wrong with judging others.
Depends on what you are being judged about... And how that judgment affects the lives of others...
It's always OK to judge furries.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.
No it's not. To judge implies the possibility of acceptance.
We already know the judgement; our task is to carry out the sentence.
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
Orkeosaurus wrote:No it's not. To judge implies the possibility of acceptance.
We already know the judgement; our task is to carry out the sentence.
You mean I can burn down furry conventions without permission? Sweet!
People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.
Some would question your right to burn a thousand furries; those who understand know you have no right to let them live.
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Nobody in their right mind would question your right to burn a thousand furries; those who understand know you have no right to let them live.
Fixed.
People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.
Evil is complicated. Most people want to do away with evil, but without evil, there is no reason for good to exist.
The concepts of 'good' and 'evil' exist entirely to balance the other out. Trying to do away with evil is like trying to do away with the burning of furries.
I don't think it is possible to simply sum up evil, other than saying that evil is based on perspective.
To some, abortion may be evil. To others, it may not. This is why I hate when someone tells someone else that they are 'evil' or 'immoral'. Everything is about perspective.
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I disagree; there cannot be good and evil if evil is good. The existence of evil must be a bad thing for evil to be what it is.
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
OverbossGhurzubMoga wrote: This is why I hate when someone tells someone else that they are 'evil' or 'immoral'. Everything is about perspective.
Then why is it problematic to tell another person that they are evil, or immoral? In making such a statement the speaker is simply claiming that the target is evil, or immoral, according to his own standards. Whether or not the target, or anyone else really, chooses to concern himself with that fact is another matter altogether.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
tblock1984 wrote:I politely disagree. Why can't they both be connected? I have always thought that magic (any extraordinary or mystical influence, charm, power, etc.) is just something science hasn't explained yet.
If it’s just something science hasn’t explained yet then it isn’t religion. Religion deals with the supernatural, whatever is beyond the natural, observable world. As soon as something becomes a subject science can describe, explain and account for it isn’t religion any more, it’s science.
But science can only explain the observable, material world. No matter how much science expands and improves, it will never be capable of looking past the material world.
I see it as duality, you can't have one without each other, just like how you can't have light without darkness. It is not "either one, or the other."
The point is that you can have one, neither or both. Just like I can be a fan of horse racing and also a fan of beer.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
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hole you stole my line! Oh well.
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