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poppycock! dakkadakka.com is a veritable fountain of free legal advice on the legality of any proposed products. your company has benefited from numerous free legal opinions in your previous posts from the more persistent and civic minded dakkites. also, various knowledgeable companies like lone wolf post their opinions on various IP issues that reference hallowed legal texts like wikepedia. seriously, how can you go wrong? i mean we all here agree 100% on the rules of a game of toy soldiers so we must all be legal experts... right?


LOL
Tell that to the judge later on:
"Well I got free legal advice on the internet and I thought that, well I thought umm..."

Our company has used zero free legal advice thankyou. We use it (free legal advice) on boards for what it is, pointers, hints, eye openers and suggestions but everything needs to be double checked by a licensed law firm in the end if you want the bitz to fit amongst others to an existing game or want them to be inspired by stuff from the movies etc no matter how many hobbyists "claim" and "think" some things are ok or not on the internet.

As for other companies like lonewolf or minmaxi, I did not know they tangent eventual IP issues what so ever making a sci-fi head that might with good will resemble something that might fit on a SM torso while not even daring to point out that fact is one thing.
Sticking to 100% safe things like round bases anyone can do with no legal advice needed. It is far cheaper but also locks you out from the more daring approaches.
But feel free to sculpt almost-replicas of say SM jump packs if you want to based on "free" internet advice from friends, wikipedia and perfect strangers, its your loss in the end

Take these words (directed to the wannabee starter of a bitz company) as a gigantic piece of friendly advice, hoard up a bucketload of money and then some more in case "something" happens, get proper legal advice and start slow.
Rush and think you can do anything based om peoples personal opinions and you will crash and the bad part is you can still crash in the end no matter the preparations.
That is life and that is dirty competition business.

That would depend on who owns the copyright for the piece. If the sculptor doesn't own the rights, well...

And in turn that would depend on what the proper legal advice told the sculptor in advance to sculpting said piece so that you know the IP, copyrights etc etc after it is done. If done in a correct way the sculptor owns anything he does, might not be 100% like he originally intended to sculpt it but in the end it is better to know you control what you did and can decide to do as you please with.

I happen to have passed my copyright law classes. So I may not be a lawyer, but a quick phone call and a case of wine can bring 75 of them to my house.

International copyright and IP law as well?
Also will the lawyer friends at the wine dinner give you the advice in signed form or will it still be the "I got free advice from a somewhat drunk friend at a dinner that now refuses to back that up with further help"?

Dont mean to cramp the mood but both ours certainly didnt, in fact they insisted on 300$+ per hour in or of office but then said help warranted further obligations should it ever be challenged in the future by another party. That is the difference between a friend giving advice and a professional doing it for his living and in that role.

I still think the idea is ok, if not a little optimistic.

Oh yes it is ok albeit very optimistic.
It just takes more work, more time and certainly a hell lot of more money to start something like this up properly.
If it didnt half of dakka would have been in the business since ages ago.


Heck dude, it sounds like you should end up with us instead
lol

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Seneca Nation of Indians

Pyriel- wrote:
Tell that to the judge later on:



I would laugh my ass off seeing a GW lawyer in front of a Seneca peacemaker (judge). From the legal system that brought you legal questions such as 'What the feth are these white people doing in my courtroom?" and "What do you mean the firing all the Seneca on our construction site will cost us $50,000 a day in fines?"

Oh, throw in that the local police don't need warrants. Seriously, they don't. They can search you and your house/car at any time. However, crime and punishment are a bit strange. I ROFLED when the DEA came to town and tried to make a bust. The US Drug Enforcement Agency was fined $8,000 in damages and made to 'return the confiscated property' by the Peacemaker. Seems that possession of less then 25 pounds of MJ is not a chargeable offense here.


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Deep in the Woods

BaronIveagh wrote: Seems that possession of less then 25 pounds of MJ is not a chargeable offense here.


Can I come live with you?? hehehe

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And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

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Seneca Nation of Indians

Nicorex wrote:
BaronIveagh wrote: Seems that possession of less then 25 pounds of MJ is not a chargeable offense here.


Can I come live with you?? hehehe


If you're legally registered Seneca, sure.


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Gothenburg

I would laugh my ass off seeing a GW lawyer in front of a Seneca peacemaker (judge). From the legal system that brought you legal questions such as 'What the feth are these white people doing in my courtroom?" and "What do you mean the firing all the Seneca on our construction site will cost us $50,000 a day in fines?"

Hehe, a judical system that throws in racism into the sentence outcomes, love that.
But then again, GW might send a rastafari or black lawyer to kick your behind


Oh, throw in that the local police don't need warrants. Seriously, they don't. They can search you and your house/car at any time. However, crime and punishment are a bit strange. I ROFLED when the DEA came to town and tried to make a bust. The US Drug Enforcement Agency was fined $8,000 in damages and made to 'return the confiscated property' by the Peacemaker. Seems that possession of less then 25 pounds of MJ is not a chargeable offense here.

Then beware, if you loose the case they might even chop your hands of.

Salamanders W-78 D-55 L-22
Pure Grey Knights W-18 D-10 L-5
Orks W-9 D-6 L-14
 
   
Made in us
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Seneca Nation of Indians

Pyriel- wrote:
Hehe, a judical system that throws in racism into the sentence outcomes, love that.
But then again, GW might send a rastafari or black lawyer to kick your behind


Not too likely. My cousin sits on the ruling council atm. And those guys wouldn't have a prayer. There are three classifications of resident here: Class 1: Registered Seneca, Class 2: Other Native, Class 3: Everyone else.

How hard is it to get extradited on a non-violent charge? Well, let's just say that NYSP hate us with the burning passion of a thousand exploding suns (and occasionally demonstrate it with shootings and beatings, but we're not black, so it never makes the news) because you can steal a car in NY and drive it onto the res and the only thing they can do is make you give the car back.


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