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wow cool I kinda like the new fire prism much better then the old one who ever had the great idea to cast the gun part in metal should be hit really hard.

Changed my mind , i like them rofl.

Just dont like the extension after the prism piece.

not a fan of both tbh, the prism looks a little slender with a lance stuck on it and the night spinner looks too top heavy for me.

The turret looks pretty modular. Will they be in the same kit?

Maybe a taste of things to come?

Turret's a bit massive looking in the spinner pic but looks as though it flows nicely with the rest of the model in the prism pic, guess it's gonna have to be one of those models you need to check out for yourself. In either case I like the new weapon designs, particularly the prism cannon, it looks much more like a pinpoint and long range laser beam kinda thing which suits it imo.

I'll be getting some one day when I get around to an Eldar army.

Wow. Guess who is going to bring up his Eldar army on his to do list.

Yeah I'm pretty sure these are going to be in the same kit, the turrets are identical with weapon mounts for either Prism + targeter or 2 x Night Spinner weapon. Considering the Night Spinner appears to be AP- based on the description in picture its probably a good thing they will be one kit, I can't see it being particularly popular unless it has some special rule we don't know about yet.

Not quite what I was expecting for the Prism. Imo the biggest issue is the fact that the the actual prism/crystal part looks pathetically small compared to the to the barrel and as such doesn't instantly convey the fact that it is a Fire PRISM like the existing one does. By the looks of it conversions to the barrel and prism could be possible though. The Night Spinner looks ok I guess, the smaller main weapon makes it look a bit less streamlined though.

However I think both of them really show how badly dated the Falcon hull is. The turrets are essentially all that they have changed, and they look pretty good, very sleek and streamlined as you would expect on an Eldar tank (you couldn't make them any more streamlined without making the gunner not fit in the turret). The problem is that the sleek lines don't really match up with the older Falcon hull which it appears they haven't touched at all, it just seems a bit too blocky/short in comparison. If you stretched out the hull by maybe another inch or so (the front part, not extending the back like the Serpent does) I think it would look much better.

Having said that I'm still going to be buying a couple, its going to be nice to be able to actually put my Prisms on a flying stand when I am playing (to get LOS etc properly) without breaking it every time.

I prefer the new Fire Prism to the old one. Now I hope that you can buy the sprue separately, as I have 2 unassembled Fire Prisms at home, waiting for a solution to the Prism assembly.

BTW the hull is exactly the same, just the wind shields at the back added.

The Spinner looks a bit blocky and I never understood why the weapon has no AP. Isn't supposed to be this super thin/sharp wire stuff. There should be some armor penetration with that.

Not entirely sold on the prism either. I'd prefer just a crystal.

The Prism does get a slight range increase with such a long barrel.

Not sure about the Prism. I still like the old one but conversion of the new one might be the solution i.e loose the barrel 'extension'.

Looks like they'll be both in the same kit judging by the turret design. makes sense seeing as you get a few options for armament in the Leman Russ kit.

I didn't like the Prism when I first looked at it. But then I didn't like the current Rhino when I first saw it, or the new Trukk, and then changed my mind. Sometimes the first impression of a new kit of an existing model is heavily coloured by expectations - you have a fixed idea in your mind of what should be changed and what should be retained, and the first instinct is to reject what the designers have done.

Looking at it again here (thanks Kyoto for posting it), I think it's actually rather cool. The configuration is a bit too similar to the Hammerhead, but it looks quite elegant, and sells the idea of a powerful anti-tank weapon. I do wish the actual prism part was a bit bulkier though, and it might look a bit sleeker without the driver's canopy. I don't have an Eldar army (just a few of their best models), but I would happily have a couple of these. 8 out of 10.

It looks as though there are a couple of side pieces to extend the hull and help balance that large turret. It's amazing how durable that old Falcon hull is. It still looks good after all this time - a testament to Jes Goodwin's genius.

I don't really like the Night Spinner (even after a couple more looks at it). It's not bad, it's just kind of uninspiring. I don't think the big turret is really justified by those smallish weapons.

I am "meh" about the new Prism, but I hated the old one, so it is a definite improvement.

I love the turret. Looks like it could work as a standalone model. An Eldar "land speeder" if you will.

Thumbs up to both from me. The prism looks spot on, very Eldar in design. The last one was too chunky for an Eldar weapon IMO.

I don't think the angle for the prism in the picture was a good angle to get a good feel for it.

I agree with Flashman, the night spinner's guns don't seem to have good proportions in the picture.

With the correct angle , i imagine it to look like FW Eldar Scorpion? sort of?

EmpBobo wrote:I don't think the angle for the prism in the picture was a good angle to get a good feel for it.

I agree with Flashman, the night spinner's guns don't seem to have good proportions in the picture.

Lol, think you agree with someone else, that's not what I said is it?

The new prism looks like it is inspired by the old eldar tempest tank design.

From the looks of it, they did a redesign of the hull. It looks like the rear end/side is completely different. The exhaust ports look different as well.

It looks like the same hull but it looks like they have added the bits to make vectored engines. Hopefully this means they are adding the vehicle wargear bits to the sprue heh.

Night spinner would be cool in an army with a crap load of scorpions. Here is hoping they have a points reduction on all the Eldar vehicles soon!!

Yeah simply giving it a more slender crystal would have been fine, but I think they wanted to somehow convey that this is a very powerful weapon by keeping it large, but without making it chunky. The extension is just a bit too long imo, but I like that it now has two crystals.

Since someone has the WD with these, can we see the IG tanks too? =)

Cut the dongle off the Fire Prism and I have no qualms with it. Night Spinner looks fine enough to me, and nowhere near as over the top as the FW one.

chaos0xomega wrote:From the looks of it, they did a redesign of the hull. It looks like the rear end/side is completely different. The exhaust ports look different as well.

No its the same hull just added bits.

Either way, as an Eldar player I really appreciate that these models simply don't look like yet another Falcon Chassis and Turret with a modified weapon.

We have the Falcon, Fire Prism, Night Spinner and Firestorm all on the same basic structure and it looked quite boring.

I loved the Wave Serpent only because it looked fundamentally different than other Eldar "medium" tanks.

Well, ultimately, the good thing is that they're all plastic now, so with a little bit of work, changes can be made to match just about anyone's wish!

Yeah - go plastic!

Alpharius wrote:Well, ultimately, the good thing is that they're all plastic now, so with a little bit of work, changes can be made to match just about anyone's wish!

Yeah - go plastic!

QFT! I also think I'll be ditching the boom on the FP.

I like em both. They do look a bit beefier which is kinda kool.

Well, we now know that the Night Spinner has AP (-)

Just perused the text next to the model

The prism looks great but I'm not liking the night spinner :( just looks way too top heavy.. maybe it's just the angle. but it looks like it wants to fly off on it's own and not be attached to a dumb falcon