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Don't reg Crisis suits have bs 3?

It's 20 points per plasma rifle, and 10 points per tracking array to get +1 bs.

So it's close to 60 points a model bare min for crisis suits with plasma rifles + bs upgrade.

I thought re-roll to hit 36 inch str 7 shots would equal plasma rifle shots. The only thing I won't murderize as nicely is Terminators and other 2+ things.

Did I suggest for you to put the Plasma rifles on the basic Shas'ui?

I suggested that you put them on a model where you already have BS 4. If you're already paying for the BS, ya might as well make the most of it.

not a bad idea. I will contemplate it tomorrow on the way to work. Thanks for the info. I'll relook at some point values. Any Idea on something to drop or replace perhaps? I like my troop choices. And I'm semi-set on using some Kroot, and at least a few hounds cause the models super cool.

only battlesuits with BS 4 is a sha'el and commander farsight or with target array the bodyguard, xv8 battlesuit and the xv88 battle suit.

Haven't touched this thread in awhile. But I'm still contemplating Tau Armies and was about to get a FW box yesterday

I've had a few questions lately from reading the codex again

How useful are Fire Warriors en masse (on foot)? For any point value game 50 fire warriors at 500 points is something that looks awesome with rapid fire str 5 weapons.... Real question "How many squads of FW is most effective to take on foot?"

Second "What in the random dakka tau players opinion are the three best battlesuit weapons?" (Just the weapon profile itself, just ignore point values and whatnot)

Third "Is the bodyguard retinue ever worth taking over regular suits?" They're 10 points more, same BS, same W, same T, in a Tau world of "never get in CC" they don't appear any better at all....I'm probably wrong though

Those are the only questions I couldn't figure through myself. I was really stuck on Missile Pods since they're basically Autocannons. And I would love to field 50 Fire Warriors on foot

Do give AdvancedTauTactica.com a Read. Lotsa lurking. The site will help your tau game immensely.

Koski wrote:How useful are Fire Warriors en masse (on foot)? For any point value game 50 fire warriors at 500 points is something that looks awesome with rapid fire str 5 weapons.... Real question "How many squads of FW is most effective to take on foot?"

How useful? Not very.
FWs should almost always have a transport. They're too fragile otherwise.

Now, "on foot", there is the FishofFury tactic: Move the d'fish up, dismmebark the FWs within range of an infantry target and then Rapid Fire with MarkerLight assist. 24 shots, with the high STR Pulse Rifles can be great. Add in a Warfish's 7 dice and you're on your way to wiping out that enemy unit. The point is to use the d'fish's body to prevent surviving enemy from getting around it to assault eh FWs. Two d'fish make the tactic work best.

LoS: You'll need to make sure that the flying stand you're using is tall enough to allow the FWs to have LoS *under* the fish.

One game, the store manager basically said that FoF was dead, because the d'fish was 'barely hovering over the ground' even though move GW stand had it high enough for the FWs to shoot under. Eh, I accepted his ruling (even though he's wrong), disemmbarked on the side and finished off the H-gaunts anyway.

Koski wrote:Second "What in the random dakka tau players opinion are the three best battlesuit weapons?" (Just the weapon profile itself, just ignore point values and whatnot)

PR is best. MP #2, then BC. The Fusion Blaster is a distant 4th place because its range brings a suit too close to enemy h2h.

But you should really look at combos:
Arguably, the top two preferred configs are the PR/MP/MT FireKnife and the BC/MP/MT FireStorm. The Deathrains (TL MPs) you've put in your list are like #3 on the list of preference.

Koski wrote:Third "Is the bodyguard retinue ever worth taking over regular suits?" They're 10 points more, same BS, same W, same T, in a Tau world of "never get in CC" they don't appear any better at all....I'm probably wrong though

No, you're right. I never take the pricier bodyguards. However, I see many lists, and other players who regularly run them. A good list is a nice start toward winning a game, but an inexperienced player will lose anyway. So ... try running it. It must work for somebody.

Koski wrote:Those are the only questions I couldn't figure through myself. I was really stuck on Missile Pods since they're basically Autocannons. And I would love to field 50 Fire Warriors on foot

They'd get caught in h2h pretty quick (no room to run away) and Swept (Sweeping Advance) in a heartbeat ... err, at least Turn 3. I own 48 FWs, but now rarely field more than 3 full units, and that'd be at a 2k point level.