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Captain Idaeus wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote:Modeling something one way when it is definitely not what you're modeling it to be is called modeling for advantage and cheating. Definitely can't encourage that one.

In terms of deception, closed lists are also not typical for friendly games and against tournament standards, so no deception there. It is standard to ask your opponent what units are in which transports, accompanied by which characters.

I agree with you, but I can see where this could be acceptable. If the player you are playing sees said unit and just assumes that they are something they are not without saying anything, are you at fault for modeling your unit in a intimidating or awesome way?

Alright, would it be okay if I modeled my rhinos as predators? You know, with the guns filed down so that it's "clear" that they aren't there. It would really be your fault for assuming they were something thy weren't when my Khorne Berzerkers jump out. What about if my dreadnought's missile launchers and lascannons just look like they're close combat weapons. You really have to ask these about things!

@mekanobSamael

"What about if my dreadnought's missile launchers and lascannons just look like they're close combat weapons. You really have to ask these about things!"

In a perfect world your missile launchers and lascannos ARE close combat weapons!