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Grunt_For_Christ wrote:Because the Deff rolla inflicts D6 S10 hits, which wound everything on 2's regardless of whether or not I get out of the way. This is why I specifically mentioned them.

Insta kills warriors, zoenthropes, and the doom to boot

SW's JoTWW.

Stenguard spam, the hellfire rounds are killer against MC's.

eNvY wrote:Stenguard spam, the hellfire rounds are killer against MC's.

isn't tht their fluff-stated purpose?

In all honesty, Jawsspam is mean to Nidzilla...and Nidzilla alone. So realistically that build is less likely to be an issue...

What *really* concerns me most, would be Dark Eldar Lance spam, especially when one considers that most the Tyranid AT is short-range, and Night-Shields further aggravate that.

Krak Missile are great against MCs at are available to many Space Marine units for cheap. In fact, I would saw Missile Launchers seem made to kill Tyranids: Krak for the MCs and Warriors and Frag for the hordes.

Grey Templar wrote:Lightining Claws rip big bugs up if you charge them and can do a number on Gribblies too. i had 5 LC terminators charge a Carnifex brood. they killed 2 and dropped 1 down to 1 wound. the carnifex killed 2 Terminators back and died to a Fearless wound.

Case of extreme good luck though, like less than one in a million chance to do that, unless you have some unmentioned buffs like Furious Charge or Reroll to Hit or something. On average, on the charge you'd do 4 wounds, killing 1 Carnifex, the 2 remaining ones kill 3 termies. By the end of the second assault turn, your termies would be squished while the 2 'Fexes remain standing.

TH/SS Termies on the other hand, would easily do double the number of wounds on T6, while taking less damage with their 3++ save in return.

It doesn't matter up 1, The wife and I will stomp your army into the ground! Your Chaos Demon will start cutting himself like a emo kids at the sight of my wife's swarmlord! =D just messing with ya, I am looking forward to the match.

Sisters of Battle can be pretty brutal against nids.

Mass flamer templates and three exorcists will do short work of any MC.

Hellhounds and ordinance batteries.

Jaon wrote:loosing a carnifex to instant death is like loosing a monolith to a lascannon. Doesnt happen very often but its totally shattering when it does

I second what Jaon said about wraithguard. Instant death to a six wound, toughness six model really takes the wind out of your sails.

My non mech Guard army did fine last time around (okay not non-mech but mech-lite) Manticore and Colossus battery pounded the crap out of the troops and the MCs that came close fell to heavy weapons. Lascannons butchered the zoanthropes (s9, t4) while the carnies and hive tyrant drew fire from my autocannons/multilasers/missile launchers and my one Leman Russ, an Executioner with Knight Pask commanding. Also Master of Ordinance with his barrage attack