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Everyone has dispel dice. A butcher is only getting +2 and is almost universally more expensive than other races' minor Wizards and they can only use gut magic, which isn't nearly as spiffy as the main lists. Ogres are always going to be out-magiced via Wizards. Though I do recommend getting some anti-spell gear.
ive been taking 3 blocks because people have to split up their shooting because i have 15 ironguts with a hero in them cause i don't take the tyrant and spam smaller hero level heroes because the lord is too expensive. He is epic but bruisers do the same thing if you keep them cheap. Gnoblars are amazing because people ignore them and you tarpit them and they sit there and my ironguts run around. Magic and shooting heavy armies give you grief because magic heavy can be counters but shooting heavy means that those trappers become epic as you need to delay for a turn so your ogres can move. Gorgers are amazing and i would never take a slavegiant cause he has no stubborn
"evil prospers when good men do nothing"
Nelson Mandela