Craftworlds.

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**KamikazeCanuck**

Emperors Faithful wrote:
IvanTih wrote:
And that was the whole sector battlefleet.

Curb-stomping is indeed the correct word for it. Since then the Imperium has seen fit to establish a 'Let sleeping dogs lie' policy, and avoid taking any serious action against Eldar unless they are either attacked or Eldar piracy is becoming a huge problem.

Retribution wrote:

And the Invaders didn't attack Biel-Tan (that would be utter suicide), they attacked some no-name craftworld called Idharae

The Invaders (not unsupoorted mind you) razed Idhare (to the ground?), sustaining heavy casualties. In retaliation the Biel-Tan decimated their Chapter World, destroying their Monastery. The remnants of the Invaders are a fleet based chapter now.

Of the utterly destroyed craftworlds I can remember Malanta'i, Deamon-love place and *possibly* Idharae. Iyanden doesn't count as they were not destroyed, just ravaged, and I am not sure how extensive the destruction on Idharae was, or if it was completely annhilated. There was also some story or other about a Craftworld that died soon after a war with Saim-Hann from either Slaanesh or bad plot or some gak. The author...Goto was it?

Until the more recent codexes, you'd be hard pressed to find evidence of any destroyed craftworlds other than those in the early times of the Fall. Now though, the stories about their destruction are popping up like daisies.

Well it was the same with traitor marines. Very few since the great heresy but with the last Chaos Marines Codex renegades were popping up everywhere.

**Kroothawk**

Here two pics of craftworlds:

Iyanden (from the old boardgame):

**blackclaw1**

i dont knwo hwo big they are but they are big enough for a titan to comfortably stand on and an entire regiment + a task force of space marines and all the eldar

**KamikazeCanuck**

Well Iyanden almost fit an entire Hivefleet, Heirophants and all in it.

**Retribution**

Afaik the largest Craftworlds are around planet-size or bigger

**Fathead**

852.M41 The invaders chapter launch a direct assault on the craftworld idharae. Thought the space marines suffer horrific casualties,
they leave the craftworld a ruined and desolate hulk.

895.M41 Crafworld Alaitoc launches a devastating attack on the Invaders' chapter planet. with the invaders still under strength following their assault of idharae they are quickly overcome. Though tree companies escape the disaster, the fortress-monastery is lost. The invaders are thereafter a spacebound chapter. < pg49 of the Codex:space marines

rough fluff states that the Invaders lost over half of the chapter in the assault on the craftworld idharae.

**ChrisWWII**

So basically, attacking a craftworld is a bad idea overall, and even if you DO kill some no name craftworld, it's big brothers will be very, VERY pissed off. Kind of like if you went for an Imperial Feral world.....sure it looks like an easy target, but just wait until the nearest Astartes chapter hears about it....

**Kroothawk**

ChrisWWII wrote:So basically, attacking a craftworld is a bad idea overall, and even if you DO kill some no name craftworld, it's big brothers will be very, VERY pissed off. Kind of like if you went for an Imperial Feral world.....sure it looks like an easy target, but just wait until the nearest Astartes chapter hears about it....

Yeah, killing millions of people can get you into trouble

**Emperors Faithful**

Now where have we heard that before?

BTW, thought it was Biel-Tan, not Alaitoc oops.

**Gavin Thorne**

Emperors Faithful wrote:There was also some story or other about a Craftworld that died soon after a war with Saim-Hann from either Slaanesh or bad plot or some gak. The author...Goto was it?

Yeah, that horrible Eldar Prophesy book. The craftworld had fought off Saim-Hann in the past and suffered horrible casualties. Then, it's farseer and nobles were corrupted by Slaaneshi-like warp powers while a civil war rages. It read like it very much wanted to be Frank Herbert's "Dune" in 40K, but fell so far from the mark. The only upside - a potential Warp Spider Phoenix Lord. So bad it made me feel like I needed my brain scrubbed after reading it, ugh...

**Emperors Faithful**

It is one of the few books that I just could not finish becuase it was that bad. Emperor forgive me I even managed to finish Twilight.

BTW, from what I could pick up from that sorry excuse of a plot, Saim-Hann actually was victorious in the war but (after their excessive proof of superior Eldar dickwaving) they decided to bugger off rather than finish the job.

**Avalon**

THis is from one the few eldar novels init. Im having that one ordered since there arent any here in Thailand, SUCKS balls that theres nothing here to be had regarding the eldar.

Can even find a decent hobby store that has a model or two

Otherwise, the craftworld that fought with Saim Hann wasnt that the Lugannath cratworld? Thought they had a strong titan legion

or was it the Kaelor? I cant remember these days with half my codex ruined by rain.

**Emperors Faithful**

...Titan Legion?

And that Saim-Hann war with another Craftworld was not from the codex (Although the Saim-Hann's hot blood leading them into warring with other Eldar is actually mentioned in it) but from a sorry piece of plot written by the Nurgle of Black Library, Goto.

Don't order Shadow Prophecy, get 'Path of the Warrior' by Gav Thorpe. Infinitely better.

**Avalon**

There was something in the codex titanicus or something or another. And you're right it was Siam Hann and some other craft world

Lugannath was the one with the titans that fought the daemons that entered the webway. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187441&goto=nextoldest

can any one explain me how that is possible? thought they protected the webways closely.

**Shas09**

I've read about Altansar which some how came out of the EoT which quite amazing since the eye is the whirling washing machine of madness, corruption and mutation. How did it got out and how was it still in working condition.

**Emperors Faithful**

Time feth?

**chromedog**

Avalon wrote:There was something in the codex titanicus or something or another. And you're right it was Siam Hann and some other craft world

Lugannath was the one with the titans that fought the daemons that entered the webway. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187441&goto=nextoldest

can any one explain me how that is possible? thought they protected the webways closely.

The webways have their own protections (wards and seals) and there are the crystalline warp spider-creatures that repair damage to the 'fabric' of the tunnels themselves and seal off breaches to contain them until they can be eradicated.

Many sections of the webway have been corrupted and/or locked off from the craftworlds as it presents too great a risk to the survivors.