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final_boss325 wrote:Thousand Sons chaos marines. High points cost or not, combine a psyker w/force weapon with the whole squad having 3+ armour save, 4+ invulnerable save and AP 3 Bolters! Combine that and you have the makings of a really irritating unit.

Well, I've never used them in my chaos army, but now that you bring it to my attention I think I'll use them. They're slow and purposeful, which makes them useless to me. It's why I stay away from them.

Anyway, Vespids, rough riders, striking scorpions, pariahs, possessed marines, nurglings,whirlwinds, lysander,DOM, land raider crusaders, deathstrike missile launchers, catachans as a whole, the nightbringer, all dark eldar.

That's only a fraction of the things I hate, for one reason or another.


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darkangels_rule wrote:Necron c-tan ... no living thing should be toughness 8 ...just wrong

Do wraithlords count as living?

Necron Warriors. There's TONS of them, they get back (most annoying ability in the game, nothing more frustrating than killing a bunch of dudes only to have them get back up and shoot at you). They also have gauss weapons that can always glance vehicles on sixes, making my strategy of combat squadding Terminators and driving 5 with a Land Raider and deep striking another 5 in later completely useless. Also C'tans are ridiculous.

Hormagaunts. They are just amazing against my daemon army.

Anything with FNP.....makes me feel like my units carry nerf weapons.

I'm kinda shocked at the amount of Necron hate even though they are one of the easiest armies to destroy in 5th atm.

Blood Claws With Ragnar Blackmane, They are beast in CC

I may be a BA player, but I hate Mephiston too. While I think the statline isn't TOO ridiculous (Look at what the Necrons get with the C'Tan) his size is. I really think it would have made more sense to have him be a Psyker Libby Dreadnought. Our characters don't have a lot of variety, and that would have been a help.

Other than him, fething Ork Nobz using wound allocation.

ALL OF MY HATE.

Yes, Mephiston is evil.

Another evil thing is loads and loads of 20-strong units of Bloodletters flooding your lines after appearing about 6" away.

However, I'm not moaning because I do it!
Also, it's not really all that OP because I always lost 50% to deep-strike mishaps... that table hates me!

Ardensfax wrote:Also, it's not really all that OP because I always lost 50% to deep-strike mishaps... that table hates me!

And this is why Daemon armies aren't as ridiculous as people make them seem. Yes, you can have a unit of Daemonettes rip the living gak out of a few MEqs, but you also have an equally good chance of them scattering and losing the whole unit in the blink of an eye.

Mephiston...and almost anything else from the new BA codex like psyker dreadnoughts or flying land raiders!

Depends on which army I'm facing. But usually it's a combination. Say, autocannons and AP3 large blasts.

Since I run a vehilc-heavy gurad list and there are several 'Nid players at my FLGS, I find Zoantrhropes particularly aggrevating.

Kurgash wrote:I'm kinda shocked at the amount of Necron hate even though they are one of the easiest armies to destroy in 5th atm.

HOW?! My friend has a very basic Necron army and I can barely even scratch the paint on them!

G-Dawg_Whitey wrote:

Kurgash wrote:I'm kinda shocked at the amount of Necron hate even though they are one of the easiest armies to destroy in 5th atm.

HOW?! My friend has a very basic Necron army and I can barely even scratch the paint on them!

What are you running?

There are ways to take down Necrons, it's not terribly hard, but you kind of have to know what you're doing. Many new players get flustered by WBB and Gauss weapons and don't realize that they're no tougher than Marines. You just gotta kill them in the right order so that they don't pop back up.

Indeed, Phase Out is, in its current incarnation, a rather strong drawback.

Tyranid Synapse Creatures in General! For losing the no instant death rule!

No Hatred for the Dark Elder Archon? Amazing.


All seriousness! Death Company, Khorne Berzerkers, & Bloodletters. (pretty much all the same damn unit)

Comintern wrote:

All seriousness! Death Company, Khorne Berzerkers, & Bloodletters. (pretty much all the same damn unit)

Lies and slander!

They have different paint schemes.

Melissia wrote:Indeed, Phase Out is, in its current incarnation, a rather strong drawback.

Especially since 25% of an army can still win a game, especially if it just holds down enough objectives.

I really hope with their next codex update they tweak Phase Out, although I feel like it's a major part of the character of the army, and probably shouldn't be removed altogether.

SaintHazard wrote:

Melissia wrote:Indeed, Phase Out is, in its current incarnation, a rather strong drawback.

Especially since 25% of an army can still win a game, especially if it just holds down enough objectives.

I really hope with their next codex update they tweak Phase Out, although I feel like it's a major part of the character of the army, and probably shouldn't be removed altogether.

I always felt that it would work better as once you reach 25%, you roll a dice. First time, 3+ and you stay. Every turn after, add one, just like the rules for continuing a game after 5 turns.

But this is Proposed Rules territory, and this is a General Discussion thread, so meh.

Logan Grimnar, the Destroyer of Hobbies

..oh and anything with a Thundershield on it. F@#$ 3++ saves.

Haddi wrote:

SaintHazard wrote:

Melissia wrote:Indeed, Phase Out is, in its current incarnation, a rather strong drawback.

Especially since 25% of an army can still win a game, especially if it just holds down enough objectives.

I really hope with their next codex update they tweak Phase Out, although I feel like it's a major part of the character of the army, and probably shouldn't be removed altogether.

I always felt that it would work better as once you reach 25%, you roll a dice. First time, 3+ and you stay. Every turn after, add one, just like the rules for continuing a game after 5 turns.

But this is Proposed Rules territory, and this is a General Discussion thread, so meh.

That's not a bad idea. And I say that in General Discussion because I don't follow the rules! I am a rebe- ... what was that, Mom?

...yes, I'll take out the trash.

...no, not right now.

...MOOOOOM.

Deep striking Doom of Malanta'i. Only single unit that I found utterly impossible to kill. (Mainly becuase it landed smack dab in the middle of my army and killed most Heavy Weapons before they could get up an running.)

Giving 2 Carnifex/Trygons/Other-monstrous-creature over that thing any day.

Nob Bikers, not that they are overpowered, in fact quite the opposite. I have played against Nob Bikers many, many times and I have never had a problem against them.

Valkyrie wrote:Nob Bikers, not that they are overpowered, in fact quite the opposite. I have played against Nob Bikers many, many times and I have never had a problem against them.

nob bikers...I killed one in assult with a heavy weapons team

raptor8 wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:Nob Bikers, not that they are overpowered, in fact quite the opposite. I have played against Nob Bikers many, many times and I have never had a problem against them.

nob bikers...I killed one in assult with a heavy weapons team

Nice Yeah people say stuff like "oh Nob Bikerz are a tourney-winning list" "I got owned by Nob Bikerz last week" etc, and yet they're just...well crap.

The sqaud i hate the most (if your unprepared) gaz with full sqaud of nobz, painboy and cybork bodies... costly as hell but it can pretty much go to town with almost anything!

And wraithlords... I seriously hate wraithlords :S

Valkyrie wrote:

raptor8 wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:Nob Bikers, not that they are overpowered, in fact quite the opposite. I have played against Nob Bikers many, many times and I have never had a problem against them.

nob bikers...I killed one in assult with a heavy weapons team

Nice Yeah people say stuff like "oh Nob Bikerz are a tourney-winning list" "I got owned by Nob Bikerz last week" etc, and yet they're just...well crap.

They're pretty nasty against older armies, but against fifth edition armies they aren't quite so bad.

I think that a lot of the Necron hate is from people that read on the internet that they suck and are surprised when they get their ass handed to them in real life.

My most hated unit? The humble Ork Boy. They aren't broken, but they beat my Space Marines and Necrons like circus monkeys and are damn hard to get rid of when there's 30 of them with a KFF nearby...

Epidemious.... try playing an ork horde army when if he kills one squad all of their bonuses activate. x 10

Have to go with whichever models can cast 'Jaws of the Cheesewolf'. "Eldar are the most psychically adept race in the galaxy..." Ha....ha....hahaha....<blaarrgh> Space Wolf librarians (they are furry afterall)!