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What I'd find interesting would be if Israel bombed the nuclear plant and the fallout ended up being carried to Gaza or Tel Aviv by the winds. Wouldn't exactly calm the situation down...
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Mr Mystery wrote:See. I told you even the soil in Oz was poisonous! There's a reason we shipped our criminals over there
This also explains your killer fauna.
Mutation!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!
Office of Naval Intelligence Research discovers 3 out of 4 sailors make up 75% of U.S. Navy.
"Madness is like gravity... All you need is a little push."
The next nuke that is shot may very well end the world.
Everyone gets too excited seeing it fly over their countries to hit another country, they think its coming for them, boom.
Only Oppenheimer fully realized this.
The atomic bomb made the prospect of future war unendurable. It has led us up those last few steps to the mountain pass; and beyond there is a different country.
I suppose the world won't know true peace until they have experienced true pain.
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Its all "keeping up with the Jones's" really. "They have one and I want one too" I mean really isn't all this Nuke effort exactly like..oh.. Veruca Salt in the original Willy Wonka?
Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!
Office of Naval Intelligence Research discovers 3 out of 4 sailors make up 75% of U.S. Navy.
"Madness is like gravity... All you need is a little push."
helgrenze wrote:
Popular Mechanics published the basics of one type of E-bomb, flux compression generator bombs (FCGs), back in Sept of 2001. The design was developed in the 50s. Not as massive as a Nuke EMP burst, but detonated in the right place... say near a major electrical substation...... The cascade effect could bring down a major city grid, possibly more.
Do you recall the 'detonation' radius?
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helgrenze wrote:
Popular Mechanics published the basics of one type of E-bomb, flux compression generator bombs (FCGs), back in Sept of 2001. The design was developed in the 50s. Not as massive as a Nuke EMP burst, but detonated in the right place... say near a major electrical substation...... The cascade effect could bring down a major city grid, possibly more.
Do you recall the 'detonation' radius?
I said basics..... specifics like "blast radius" and "field of effect" were purposely left out as were the exact construction methods of said device. You can look up the original article for yourself. Of course if you are looking at how close you need to get.... I know of several main junction stations I can walk within 30 feet of.
Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!
Office of Naval Intelligence Research discovers 3 out of 4 sailors make up 75% of U.S. Navy.
"Madness is like gravity... All you need is a little push."
Sure, but I'm more interested in mass effect. Any idiot can cut a few cables in order to disable a power grid. If an EMP is to be useful, then it must exceed that capacity.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
dogma wrote:Sure, but I'm more interested in mass effect. Any idiot can cut a few cables in order to disable a power grid. If an EMP is to be useful, then it must exceed that capacity.
Popular Mechanics Sept2001 wrote:A Poor Man's E-Bomb
An FCG is an astoundingly simple weapon. It consists of an explosives-packed tube placed inside a slightly larger copper coil, as shown below. The instant before the chemical explosive is detonated, the coil is energized by a bank of capacitors, creating a magnetic field. The explosive charge detonates from the rear forward. As the tube flares outward it touches the edge of the coil, thereby creating a moving short circuit. "The propagating short has the effect of compressing the magnetic field while reducing the inductance of the stator [coil]," says Kopp. "The result is that FCGs will produce a ramping current pulse, which breaks before the final disintegration of the device. Published results suggest ramp times of tens of hundreds of microseconds and peak currents of tens of millions of amps." The pulse that emerges makes a lightning bolt seem like a flashbulb by comparison.
Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!
Office of Naval Intelligence Research discovers 3 out of 4 sailors make up 75% of U.S. Navy.
"Madness is like gravity... All you need is a little push."
dogma wrote:Sure, but I'm more interested in mass effect. Any idiot can cut a few cables in order to disable a power grid. If an EMP is to be useful, then it must exceed that capacity.
Popular Mechanics Sept2001 wrote:A Poor Man's E-Bomb
An FCG is an astoundingly simple weapon. It consists of an explosives-packed tube placed inside a slightly larger copper coil, as shown below. The instant before the chemical explosive is detonated, the coil is energized by a bank of capacitors, creating a magnetic field. The explosive charge detonates from the rear forward. As the tube flares outward it touches the edge of the coil, thereby creating a moving short circuit. "The propagating short has the effect of compressing the magnetic field while reducing the inductance of the stator [coil]," says Kopp. "The result is that FCGs will produce a ramping current pulse, which breaks before the final disintegration of the device. Published results suggest ramp times of tens of hundreds of microseconds and peak currents of tens of millions of amps." The pulse that emerges makes a lightning bolt seem like a flashbulb by comparison.
That says nothing of the range of the 'detonation'.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Karon wrote:The next nuke that is shot may very well end the world.
Everyone gets too excited seeing it fly over their countries to hit another country, they think its coming for them, boom.
Only Oppenheimer fully realized this.
The atomic bomb made the prospect of future war unendurable. It has led us up those last few steps to the mountain pass; and beyond there is a different country.
I suppose the world won't know true peace until they have experienced true pain.
Karon wrote:The next nuke that is shot may very well end the world.
Everyone gets too excited seeing it fly over their countries to hit another country, they think its coming for them, boom.
Only Oppenheimer fully realized this.
The atomic bomb made the prospect of future war unendurable. It has led us up those last few steps to the mountain pass; and beyond there is a different country.
I suppose the world won't know true peace until they have experienced true pain.
*squints*
I recognise that quote from somewhere....
Here is another quote- see if you recognize this one:
It is not only possible - it is essential. That is the whole idea of this machine, you know. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy the fear to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision-making process which rules out human meddling, the Doomsday Machine is terrifying. It's simple to understand. And completely credible and convincing.
P.S. Hey, what are you doing outside? Get back in the Swap Shop Ketara! *boot!*
I really think people are completely underestimating the sanity of the Iranian regime. The United States not only has nearly 2500 active nuclear warheads but also the ICBMs to launch them at Iran at will. Iran DOES not have this capability.
Let's look at the states Iran MIGHT shoot a nuke at given it's capabilities:
Israel: Nada, Jerusalem is incredibly sacred to Muslims and I'm sure god wouldn't approve the blasting of that place. Besides, too much collateral damage to Hamas and Hezbollah
Eastern Gulf States (includes Eastern Saudi Arabia): Considering this area houses the largest shiite population outside Iran they'd be idiots to nuke this place. Plus dropping one or two nukes would leave much of the GCC's airforce intact. Considering Saudi Arabia alone has over twice the aircraft of Iran and much more modern ones at that, Iran's infrastructure (including it's Nuclear infrastructure) would be set back decades.
Rest of Saudi Arabia: Yes, I'm sure Allah would approve of nuking Mecca and the Holy land.
Besides we can tell exactly when Iran get a bomb: They'll need to test it and blow something up like North Korea did in 2006
dogma wrote:Sure, but I'm more interested in mass effect. Any idiot can cut a few cables in order to disable a power grid. If an EMP is to be useful, then it must exceed that capacity.
Popular Mechanics Sept2001 wrote:A Poor Man's E-Bomb
An FCG is an astoundingly simple weapon. It consists of an explosives-packed tube placed inside a slightly larger copper coil, as shown below. The instant before the chemical explosive is detonated, the coil is energized by a bank of capacitors, creating a magnetic field. The explosive charge detonates from the rear forward. As the tube flares outward it touches the edge of the coil, thereby creating a moving short circuit. "The propagating short has the effect of compressing the magnetic field while reducing the inductance of the stator [coil]," says Kopp. "The result is that FCGs will produce a ramping current pulse, which breaks before the final disintegration of the device. Published results suggest ramp times of tens of hundreds of microseconds and peak currents of tens of millions of amps." The pulse that emerges makes a lightning bolt seem like a flashbulb by comparison.
That says nothing of the range of the 'detonation'.
No, it does not. That was done on purpose. The whole article was to point out that such a device IS possible and what effects it would have if used. A lightening strike at an electrical substation can have a catastrophic effect on systems down the line as the power surge would overwhelm those systems. Ramp up the power of that surge and a larger part of the system fails. If you want Specifics, then I would suggest you talk to those academics that actually study such things.... keep in mind though, most of them work for the Government.
Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!
Office of Naval Intelligence Research discovers 3 out of 4 sailors make up 75% of U.S. Navy.
"Madness is like gravity... All you need is a little push."
