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You know this remides me of the few stories of people USING THEIR OWN BLOOD for blood effects. blood does not make good paint and now you look like a freakjob

it looks good now, but once it has been there for a while it just looks like a brown spot.


unless you allow it to dry and give it a covering of varnish.

This thread makes it seem like over the top gore is necessary for 40k. Should I encase all my models in a cylinder of clear, red tinted resin to represent the ocean of blood that they are swim-fighting through?

ssREV wrote:This thread makes it seem like over the top gore is necessary for 40k. Should I encase all my models in a cylinder of clear, red tinted resin to represent the ocean of blood that they are swim-fighting through?

Hey, it gives you some great opportunities for innovative action poses!

Fafnir wrote:That's what I did for this guy...


I figure that, considering the nature of the weapon, that that amount of blood is not only acceptable, but absolutely necessary.

Yes its good! Lots of blood but it suits the model. And it isn't just layered on. But built up gore from constant fights.

I'm in the process of splattering my Skyclaws with mud and blood I see double edged chainswords producing quite a lot of splatter. I'm not sure of the general opinion but my gdub stippling brush seems pretty good so far...

Ive found myself asking this question quite alot where is the friggin gore GW? You hear stuff from people all the time saying things like "All Heil Khrone In His Name I Command You, To Spill The Blood Of The Innocent!!!!" or "Blood For The Blood God Rahghgh" but on the minis theres not really much blood like maybe a power sword or something will have a little blood painted on the edge of the blade but it usually stops there hell if my blood angels werent Blood Red they would be covered in it!!!

BloodDrop101X wrote:Ive found myself asking this question quite alot where is the friggin gore GW? You hear stuff from people all the time saying things like "All Heil Khrone In His Name I Command You, To Spill The Blood Of The Innocent!!!!" or "Blood For The Blood God Rahghgh" but on the minis theres not really much blood like maybe a power sword or something will have a little blood painted on the edge of the blade but it usually stops there hell if my blood angels werent Blood Red they would be covered in it!!!

And I'd never be able to take them seriously.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre crap on miniatures looks ridiculous, and excessive gore is childish. If it's played for laughs, fine, but if you're actually trying to make your minis look menacing by covering them in blood and guts, you're failing.

Again, gore is fine, but in moderation.

Kanluwen wrote:Blood effects look very childish, as do corpse piles, etc.

They're difficult to do well, and to boot: they detract from the models themselves.

I would have to disagree, think of the millions of lives that are lost in even one battle. Like an ork invasion of an imperial city. You are gonna get corpses, skulls, bones etc etc. I can't see anything childish about it at all. If anything you are putting a section of a battle past or currently taken place(depending on how fresh the dead are). I personaly think the base is a part of the model as the main model itself.

Like you said if you can do them well and make them more subtle than in your face then they really work and in some cases really bring the main model out even more more. Rather than a flat lifeless base, maybe with some rubble or rocks, etc etc.

Blood effects (again like said) if done with care then are awesome, and if someones just gone crazy with a flat blood red colour then yeah, can some what look like rubbish.

But its all down to how an indivdual person likes to paint build thier bases. I perfer function over form, and battle damage and grit as asupposed to gleaming clean. Where someone else will like the clean and undamamged way. Funny I should say that while in the midst of a redo on my eldar army, I'll still do gore, but the models themselves will be failrly clean barr the weapons.

I left some stuff out of the last post Some models completely covered in blood or gore would look good depending on the models like a death company marine would look appropriate fairly covered or a chaos model I do get the relevancy to using moderate gore but in my opinion sometimes all out models would look pretty good but gleaming clean models have that feel to them like their lacking something

I can't agree with Kanulwen, not entirely at least.

Blood and gore can look childish, but it doesn't always. It's all a matter of context and execution. Randomly glob Blood Red paint all over your Devastator Squads? They'll look awful. Layer a good spatter effect on your Assault Marines (especially if they're in dramatic attack poses) and it will make your squad all the more memorable.

'Eavy Metal favors cleaner paint styles because they're better at showcasing the sculpting quality of the miniature. Excessive freehand work is the stuff of personal projects.

SkaerKrow wrote:I can't agree with Kanluwen, not entirely at least.

Blood and gore can look childish, but it doesn't always. It's all a matter of context and execution. Randomly glob Blood Red paint all over your Devastator Squads? They'll look awful. Layer a good spatter effect on your Assault Marines (especially if they're in dramatic attack poses) and it will make your squad all the more memorable.

'Eavy Metal favors cleaner paint styles because they're better at showcasing the sculpting quality of the miniature. Excessive freehand work is the stuff of personal projects.

You've not looked at the studio's Ogre Kingdoms army, have you? There's a lot of rust effects done in exactly the way I mentioned with the flicking(and an alternative, more complex method involving taking salt and watered down PVA glue, mixing the two and applying it to the metal before doing watered down[and we're talking runnier than a six year old's nose in the winter here] oranges, reds, and browns to do rust effects on the metal), all across the army.

But yeah. I definitely disagree with "it doesn't always look childish". 90%ish of the blood effects I see painted on people's stuff look like they just applied the paint straight on without any real thought or research about blood or spattering, etc.

Very rarely do I see anything that doesn't look ridiculous, hence my dislike of the technique.

kenshin620 wrote:You know this remides me of the few stories of people USING THEIR OWN BLOOD for blood effects. blood does not make good paint and now you look like a freakjob

Which in turn reminded me of that chick in Felgrum who used her own blood and poo in her paintings.

Anyway, the only models in my Chaos army who have blood are going to be the Berserkers. I am going to have them 100 percent Bleached Bone, but flick blood onto half of the models, so it looks like those ones slaughtered a unit before the other half could get into combat.

If they turn out half decent I might upload some of them.

IMO this is about as far as you want to take blood outside of special situations.

notice how the blood is confined to the club as it is a blunt instrament which will be causing damage far from the wielder leaving him relativly clean even though his club has obviously done quite a bit of killing.

I based my Kharne model in blood red and the just added a light black wash and as soon as my camera starts working i'll post the bringer of blood...

For the realistic side of 40K, I play Dawn of War: Dark Crusade (Firestorm over Kaurava mod).

When it comes to the TT, I let my imagination go to work. They are just models, and like many have said, waaaay to easy to go overboard. Either they look cheesey or just a distraction. I preferre the clean look when it comes to TT. Models are just to good looking.


My Lost and the Damned army, I used alot of colors that relates to being "sick" but left out alot of blood except where it makes sense. I used GW and Forge World as inspiration for the look of the army. It's 70% painted, (hate painting zombies). Green stuff has become as common as glue at my work station.

Vassal 40k has blood:

And it looks like crap.

What's your point?

kenshin620 wrote:You know this remides me of the few stories of people USING THEIR OWN BLOOD for blood effects. blood does not make good paint and now you look like a freakjob

Yeah I kinda have some stories about that. It looks brown and crappy. Not to mention what you need to do with the excess blood.

The reason why GW doesn't put a bunch of blood and gore on their models that they use for show and dsiplay is to play to the tastes of everyone instead of most. If all the models aren't covered in blood then they can market better to those who get grossed out by blood and gore. Also By doing that they can show off more of their actual model. Thats just the way they present and they leave it open for people to add as much of all that as they please. I'm personally ok if they aren't covered head to toe in blood. I paint my orks like that anyway hahahahaha.

juicaj1 wrote:The reason why GW doesn't put a bunch of blood and gore on their models that they use for show and dsiplay is to play to the tastes of everyone instead of most. If all the models aren't covered in blood then they can market better to those who get grossed out by blood and gore. Also By doing that they can show off more of their actual model. Thats just the way they present and they leave it open for people to add as much of all that as they please. I'm personally ok if they aren't covered head to toe in blood. I paint my orks like that anyway hahahahaha.

And it looks like crap.
Crappity crap crap crap.

All seriousness:
I have yet to see someone do bloodied/gore coated models that doesn't look like a 4 year old ate red paint then spit it at the model.

Kanluwen wrote:

juicaj1 wrote:The reason why GW doesn't put a bunch of blood and gore on their models that they use for show and dsiplay is to play to the tastes of everyone instead of most. If all the models aren't covered in blood then they can market better to those who get grossed out by blood and gore. Also By doing that they can show off more of their actual model. Thats just the way they present and they leave it open for people to add as much of all that as they please. I'm personally ok if they aren't covered head to toe in blood. I paint my orks like that anyway hahahahaha.

And it looks like crap.
Crappity crap crap crap.

All seriousness:
I have yet to see someone do bloodied/gore coated models that doesn't look like a 4 year old ate red paint then spit it at the model.

All your post begin to look like crap. So whats your point?

You are searching not for blood, but for the exact blood of your imagination?

I had really good luck with red ink on my old Khornate army. It didn't look too over the top.

Dark Scipio wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

juicaj1 wrote:The reason why GW doesn't put a bunch of blood and gore on their models that they use for show and dsiplay is to play to the tastes of everyone instead of most. If all the models aren't covered in blood then they can market better to those who get grossed out by blood and gore. Also By doing that they can show off more of their actual model. Thats just the way they present and they leave it open for people to add as much of all that as they please. I'm personally ok if they aren't covered head to toe in blood. I paint my orks like that anyway hahahahaha.

And it looks like crap.
Crappity crap crap crap.

All seriousness:
I have yet to see someone do bloodied/gore coated models that doesn't look like a 4 year old ate red paint then spit it at the model.

All your post begin to look like crap. So whats your point?

You are searching not for blood, but for the exact blood of your imagination?

Aw, look he's angry. It's adorable.

Anyways no. I want to see something that doesn't, again, look like a small child ate the paint then spit it at the model.
People, as a rule, suck at doing blood effects. Blood isn't runny, nor will it be a bright as all hell red that's glopped over you like someone with a bucket.

Spatters people. Spatters!