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Legendary Master of the Chapter





Chicago, Illinois

Filthy Sanchez wrote:What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Holy Crap are Vel? or Trolman??
Because it seems that you have absolutely no Idea on how to talk to people. I KNOW ITS BAD!
Because Its only one page in length!
Because holy you act like as if I am sorta of Satanist.

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Raleigh, NC

It's a Billy Madison quote. I was trying to make a funny. I wholeheartedly apologize if my jest was interpretted as douchebaggery and resulted in any emotional trauma to you or the OP.

TL : DR - Shorthand for ""Hi, I am a miserable cretin of the Internet that must be spoon-fed pictures and factoids or I will piss myself."

 
   
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Up in your base, killin' all your doods.

With a name like Trollman, I don't know what you were expecting.


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Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.

whatwhat wrote:
Filthy Sanchez wrote:What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Basically this thread consists of a 16 year old talking about an issue on in a roleplaying group. A few people making an effort to understand what he is taking about. And several people posting 'dat don't make sen5e!!!!' . You fall into the later category with the added bonus of being a douche bag. Thanks for posting.


Wow. Could you hear the joke whistling as it flew through the air three feet above your head?

OT:

Why would you want to play a game with people that don't want you there? Find a new group or start your own.

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Fixture of Dakka






Arlington, Texas

We'll start a picture RP group right now:

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I am Lord Shieldhaver Withbowington!

And on that note I'm going "home" to cook ramen and hopefully sleep more than 5 hours.

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Legendary Master of the Chapter





Chicago, Illinois

Well the thing is. I came up with the idea for a new RP group called the Daily SCV. The Starcraft 2 version. And I planned on making it with my own rules as I hated the Old rules and wanted to improve on it.

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Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.

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Me and my mighty spear are in.

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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
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Have you considered being a DM or GM for an RPG? You sound like you have great potential for that.

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I'll be there with my great axe

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"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever." -1984, pg.267

I think George Orwell was unknowingly describing 40K.

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Way on back in the deep caves

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In your head, screwing with your thoughts...

Asherian Command wrote:
Filthy Sanchez wrote:What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Holy Crap are Vel? or Trolman??
Because it seems that you have absolutely no Idea on how to talk to people. I KNOW ITS BAD!
Because Its only one page in length!
Because holy you act like as if I am sorta of Satanist.


I find that offensive. Most Satanists are nice people. And our blood orgies are some of the best in the world, way better than Christian blood orgies!

   
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Nashville, TN

Asherian Command wrote:
What should i do?


Go outside, find a life, live it.

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Noble of the Alter Kindred




United Kingdom

Anathema!

This is a site dedicated to nerdist activities.


 
   
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MasterDRD wrote:I find that offensive. Most Satanists are nice people. And our blood orgies are some of the best in the world, way better than Christian blood orgies!


You're just going to the wrong Christian blood orgies.



Meanwhile, Asherian Command, from what I can tell the game you're playing in is something of a collaborative storytelling game. I've never been in a game like it, but I have done my fair share of tabletop roleplaying, and there's only one real lesson to be learnt from all of that - to work a game needs goodwill and common expectations between all the players. No set of rules will ever be able to fix a group that expects different things out of a game, and isn't willing to bend a little for the other players.

It seems like you don't really have that with the full group in your game, so I think it'd be best for you if you just picked up your stuff and moved on. Don't try and ruin their game, if they're jerks like you claim then they'll ruin it for themselves soon enough. Just thank them for the opportunity, tell them you're disappointed it didn't work out and move on.

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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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Australia

I read this whole thread, the initial confusion, the re-explanations, the more confusion, the Billy Madison joke, which I thought was hilarious, more confusion on my behalf.

Something about orgies and satanists and then I got to the end...I still have no idea about roleplaying with pictures, but after reading eveything I would feel cheated if I didn't comment, so...

I agree with Sebster, no matter what you choose to play, if the people you play with are jerks then leave...take your bat and ball and go play with someone else! After all, its supposed to be an escape from the world, not more of it!

If my space marines started griping at me about leaving the toilet seat up then I'd toss them out the window and get a dog!

Find another game you can love as much as...whatever it was you were playing before...if you can play that, you will breeze into just about anything else!

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Akron, Ohio

Asherian Command wrote:Daily Peon is a unic roleplay in which members use terrain pictures instead of posts.
Why would you voluntarily join a group of unics?
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Did you write the Wikia page for StormWarriors?

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I got a picture for you.



It really does!

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What should i do?

Er, get a job? Go talk to that strange curious race called "women."

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What's a unic?
Is that the same as a castralto wot doesn't sing?

 
   
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Arlington, Texas

Lord Shieldhaver uses his shield to deflect all incoming attacks then lets loose a volley of arrows, piercing the hearts of his enemies simultaneously.

And so was the tale of Lord Shieldhaver Withbowington.

That was fun. Anyone want to play again?

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Knoxville, TN

Filthy Sanchez wrote:What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


His posting wasn't terribly coherent at first but I think I understand now. It is just freeform roleplaying that is specific to using stories from the Warcraft background with pictures from the game to help tell the story instead of just text.

Part of the problem with explaining it is because this concept is probably pretty foreign to a lot of us; I imagine it is hard to explain even to someone who is used to roleplaying because it is free form and because it uses pictures.

I don't believe I would enjoy this hobby myself, and yes, I imagine doing it would be irritating and awkward for me, but I've learned over time that just because you don't get it doesn't mean you should apply a "lame" or "gay" tag to it. I would like to think everyone older than high school age comes to this conclusion eventually, though I think they often don't. Before anyone here derides this guy's thing, make sure you can explain to everyone how your hobby of playing a competitive game using toy soldiers on a playmat is deep, complex, and above all cool, while telling video game stories using game pictures that don't even involve playing the actual game is lame and dorky. Some people would probably find the idea of hitting a ball from one point to a hole somewhere out in a field with as few hits as possible for no good reason other than to do it pretty lame if captains of industry didn't spend large amounts of money doing it and it wasn't promoted as normal on TV.

I don't know what to tell you. I'm sure they have their point of view which, if they told it here, could be made to look like they're in the right and you're being the punk.

First, are you sure people dislike you because you're an American? Have they said as much? If they have, then there isn't much you can do about that, even if the real reason they don't like you has nothing to do with your nationality. ( That isn't racism by the way, its just disliking someone because of their nationality)

The problem with any freeform roleplay like this is that it is entirely based upon consent. You're always going to have an uphill battle as the newcomer in a group like this even when the "core" group has the best of intentions. If they're particularly cliquish or don't like you, you can pretty much forget about being treated fairly. I can't imagine how you can have a competitive based free form roleplay like this and have it be anything like fair. I'm sure it could be done, but everyone involved would have to be placing the enjoyment of everyone as their primary concern while still trying to win in an almost entirely subjective environment, which is extremely difficult to do. Just look how much trouble there is in miniatures from subjective interpretations even with a fairly extensive set of rules and stochastic determinations. Now imagine trying to be fair and still win in a game where the only thing that says something is objectively a winner or better is the internal consistency of the game universe, which itself could have exceptions.

You can have all the rules you like about not godmodding other players, but you're almost having to do so to some extent to acomplish what you're trying to do in this roleplay. The bottom line is that if the clique that makes up the "core" group decides it is ok for one player in their group to just godmod you to death, its going to be looked at as fair if they want it to.

In the situation you gave, this Trohman fellow could very well have said he attacked you during the civil war because he observed that it was the best time for his character to strike because you were at a disadvantage, and he wanted to gain your land or whatever. Sure, he very well might just be metagaming an in game incident to harm your character for out of game reasons, which, of course, would be metagaming and unfair. The problem is, only he knows that for sure. If his clique controls the game and chooses to go along with him because they are in his clique, then you're just screwed.

Is the generator you used to teleport your guys off the isles resulting in their rescue internally consistent with the game fiction? If you can honestly say that yes, it is, then you have no problem as far as your obligations go. He is basically, if I get this right, saying that it is not internally consistent ( "realistic" if you will ). There is your problem. You used a Deus ex Machina. That is not, in and of itself, wrong. In fact, most roleplaying and a great deal of this sort of fiction in general uses this plot device fairly regularly. You're not writing for the Utne reader so that is just fine, its fun. Your guy found a parachute under the seat. The issue is not so much whether its "likely" as much as is it "fair". "Fair" means internally consistent and within the scope of being possible at some reasonable likelyhood for the game universe. Having a prepared teleport spell in a fantasy universe that you suddenly pull out to whisk yourself out of trouble is probably fair. Just all of a sudden being able to walk through stone because you all of a sudden have this ability that has never been mentioned before in either your fiction or the game is probably not "fair". Ultimately it gets down to whether or not he has more social leverage to throw around than you do. He's saying you cheated, and you're saying you didn't. The only way to determine that is only partially objective at best. The only real, hard, yes/no answer would be if the preexisting fiction gave an almost identical situation where a problem was resolved using that plot device. Actually, that wouldn't be completely objective, the only completely objective thing would be if there was fiction describing such a situation where such a device did *not* work. I don't think that is going to happen though.

Ultimately, I think the best option would be to find another group that does this and try them. It really doesn't matter if you or this other guy are in the right here. The bottom line is that you're probably not going to get back the sort of mutual trust and respect that is necessary for this sort of game to work right.

If you can't or won't leave this group, your future is probably going to be a matter of whether you can get people to agree with you instead of this guy, or if you can't, then if you're able to put up with whatever degree of bossiness and manipulation he's going to use on you with impunity without quitting anyhow.


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Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Lord Shieldhaver uses his shield to deflect all incoming attacks then lets loose a volley of arrows, piercing the hearts of his enemies simultaneously.

And so was the tale of Lord Shieldhaver Withbowington.

That was fun. Anyone want to play again?


No, that would not be internally consistent or fair.

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Spitsbergen

This is seriously the hardest decision you've ever made?

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|*-|**|fx[code]s[b]fjtggf bvg hgf gfhjxfjhfcdh

I can't fiure out this damn stick figure thing. i give up.
   
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Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.

rubiksnoob wrote:This is seriously the hardest decision you've ever made?

|**0***|
|*-|**|fx[code]s[b]fjtggf bvg hgf gfhjxfjhfcdh

I can't fiure out this damn stick figure thing. i give up.


Mine looks pretty hideous man.

Don't be a perfectionist!

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New Jersey, USA

I'm a bunny

(\_/)
(O.o)
(")_(")


 
   
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Arlington, Texas

Noooooo!!111 Lord Shieldhavers weakness!!!111

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New Jersey, USA

My bunny looks cute and eats some grass


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Arlington, Texas

That's broken. I don't want you in our group. You don't belong here. Your fluff doesn't match ours and your a noobface, suckperson. Go home and eat so much that you die because you ate too much and it kills you!!1

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New Jersey, USA

But think of the bunnies...Why wont anyone thing of the bunnies!

Cannerus your going to make me angry, you wouldnt like me when i'm angry...I get all whiney like alittle girl.


 
   
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Catyrpelius wrote:I'm a bunny

(\_/)
(O.o)
(")_(")


I counter with holy hand grenade

1...2...5

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One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
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youbedead wrote:
Catyrpelius wrote:I'm a bunny

(\_/)
(O.o)
(")_(")


I counter with holy hand grenade

1...2...5


I counter with the Spanish Inquisition.

They come when you least expect them.

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New Jersey, USA

But he isnt an evil bunny, he is a cute bunny. He kills with his cuteness, also his fluffy tail.


 
   
 
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