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Phryxis wrote:The videos are fairly useless, as it's all sound coming out of speakers in the end.

In practice you can't make an autoloading weapon especially quiet, but certainly a lot quieter than a normal report.

Think about it this way: take an automatic pistol or rifle, pull back the slide, and let it slam closed. It's at LEAST that loud.

I own a suppressed Ruger 10/22. It's an integrated suppressor, doesn't "wear out," and it works fairly well, but basically all it does is turn a .22 sound into a pellet gun sound. It works pretty well, but again, it's not even remotely silent.

Do you have a Class III there Phryxis?

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Do you have a Class III there Phryxis?

Yes, it's a pain and annoying, don't bother.

Phryxis wrote:

Do you have a Class III there Phryxis?

Yes, it's a pain and annoying, don't bother.

That's not the first time I have heard that either. The extensive background check to me seems a bit ridiculous, you need one to buy a gun anyway, what's the difference (other than RPM of course )?

Frazzled wrote:

Stormrider wrote:I certainly wouldn't want to be on the business end of Callahan's Model 29 Highway Patrolman, I've got a Model 28 (same size pistol, but in .357) and it bucks like a melon-fether. I've got big, strong hands too.

Silencing a revolver is quite difficult (especially hot loaded ammo like .44 Mag), hence why that was in a movie, albeit a good one.

Wait you have those giant wood grips or something aftermarket and more appropriate. Mine has pachmayrs-my first set of grips. Ah the memories

Great guy Pachmyer. My grandpa was hunting buddies with him at a duck club in Butte County. Made great after market pistol grips along with shotgun recoil pads, as my Model1917 still has an old one of his slip overs.

It took them some long period of time (6-9 months maybe) to get my paperwork done. At that point they also require that you notify them of any change of address.

Basically they're treating you like you're a big time threat to national security, because you've got a .22 rifle which is somewhat quieter than is typical.

On top of that, you pay $200 for the tax stamp, and the suppressor itself is preposterously expensive. I think I paid $1800 for the gun, and it's a $150 Ruger 10/22 with a suppressor which is about $50 in materials.

I see pistol suppressors for sale for $750. They're literally just steel tubes with baffles inside. It's a $100 item AT MOST.

That's what you get when your gun laws are written by people who are basically just ignornant and vindictive. No benefit at all to public safety, and a pain for honest citizens.

Phryxis wrote:It took them some long period of time (6-9 months maybe) to get my paperwork done. At that point they also require that you notify them of any change of address.

Basically they're treating you like you're a big time threat to national security, because you've got a .22 rifle which is somewhat quieter than is typical.

On top of that, you pay $200 for the tax stamp, and the suppressor itself is preposterously expensive. I think I paid $1800 for the gun, and it's a $150 Ruger 10/22 with a suppressor which is about $50 in materials.

I see pistol suppressors for sale for $750. They're literally just steel tubes with baffles inside. It's a $100 item AT MOST.

That's what you get when your gun laws are written by people who are basically just ignornant and vindictive. No benefit at all to public safety, and a pain for honest citizens.

Yes, the worst example of that is the 1994 Assault Weapons ban. It outlawed Flash supressors, bayonet lugs and large cap magazines. Yet, any weapon can be used in an assault. A pencil is an assault weapon. I remeber the clip of Barabara Boxer toting a completely legal, semi-auto only, Romanian made AK-47 in the Capitol Building trying to scare her fellow Senators into voting for her bill, when she demostrated how to cock the thing, she immediately became confused as to what to do next, and held it out, like she would a soiled diaper, for her Aide to take away. That woman has no business making legislation about someone else's stuff. The best part was that all "Pre-Ban" stuff was still legal to buy, it just had to be marked as so (thus it was 20-30% higher than original cost because it was pre-ban), so in the end these morons ended up inflating gun prices and helping gun dealers make more money.

And these clowns wonder why there is an illegal gun trade too...

Phryxis wrote:
I own a suppressed Ruger 10/22. It's an integrated suppressor, doesn't "wear out," and it works fairly well, but basically all it does is turn a .22 sound into a pellet gun sound. It works pretty well, but again, it's not even remotely silent.

Mate of mine used to have a 10/22.

He modified his though. Threaded the barrel end (external) to suit a commercially available spark arrestor (they're compulsory in certain states here on cars, to prevent accidental bushfires. You screw mount them into the exhaust system. They work the same way as a conventional firearm suppresor, cyclinder with internal baffles).
Took the sound levels from "BANG!" to "click" (that was from 2-3 feet away. Suppressor fit neatly into the wooden stock (hollowed out to fit the cleaning kit as well).

None of this was legal though (suppressors have been illegal here for many years). Along with ANY fully-automatic rifle. Semi-autos got restricted (further) in the wake of Port Arthur (SKS) and Strathfield (SKK).

Myself, only ever owned an L1A1 SLR. Couldn't see the point of reducing muzzle energy and range of a good pig-gun. With wild pigs, you WANT to drop them at range.

Stormrider wrote:

Phryxis wrote:It took them some long period of time (6-9 months maybe) to get my paperwork done. At that point they also require that you notify them of any change of address.

Basically they're treating you like you're a big time threat to national security, because you've got a .22 rifle which is somewhat quieter than is typical.

On top of that, you pay $200 for the tax stamp, and the suppressor itself is preposterously expensive. I think I paid $1800 for the gun, and it's a $150 Ruger 10/22 with a suppressor which is about $50 in materials.

I see pistol suppressors for sale for $750. They're literally just steel tubes with baffles inside. It's a $100 item AT MOST.

That's what you get when your gun laws are written by people who are basically just ignornant and vindictive. No benefit at all to public safety, and a pain for honest citizens.

Yes, the worst example of that is the 1994 Assault Weapons ban. It outlawed Flash supressors, bayonet lugs and large cap magazines. Yet, any weapon can be used in an assault. A pencil is an assault weapon. I remeber the clip of Barabara Boxer toting a completely legal, semi-auto only, Romanian made AK-47 in the Capitol Building trying to scare her fellow Senators into voting for her bill, when she demostrated how to cock the thing, she immediately became confused as to what to do next, and held it out, like she would a soiled diaper, for her Aide to take away. That woman has no business making legislation about someone else's stuff. The best part was that all "Pre-Ban" stuff was still legal to buy, it just had to be marked as so (thus it was 20-30% higher than original cost because it was pre-ban), so in the end these morons ended up inflating gun prices and helping gun dealers make more money.

And these clowns wonder why there is an illegal gun trade too...

That's the problem with people who know nothing about guns trying to pass gun laws.