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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 03:47:41
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Sinewy Scourge
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Damn, I thought this was to discuss how fail-filled Abbadon really is. The stereotypical villain that could've been a sort of 40k Vader, who ends up being 40k's Baldrick*.
Happy Grunt nailed other aspects. And, FW's Abbadon was on a completely different scale (and his wrist protections are made of WOOD?)
*Who solved the problem of his house's low ceiling by chopping his mother's head off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 03:50:16
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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You guys put too much blame in him  Despite failing EVERY FETHING TIME, they at least managed to look cool doing it
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 03:57:21
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Calculating Commissar
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Samus_aran115 wrote:You guys put too much blame in him  Despite failing EVERY FETHING TIME, they at least managed to look cool doing it 
The topknot would like to disagree with you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 04:10:41
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Yeah, CSM ones are cool, but his is just dumb
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 04:12:45
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Destrado wrote:Damn, I thought this was to discuss how fail-filled Abbadon really is. The stereotypical villain that could've been a sort of 40k Vader, who ends up being 40k's Baldrick*.
Happy Grunt nailed other aspects. And, FW's Abbadon was on a completely different scale (and his wrist protections are made of WOOD?)
*Who solved the problem of his house's low ceiling by chopping his mother's head off.
I just imagined imagined Roan Atkinson as Horus.
Incidentally, most hilarious use of Abbadon ever:
Deep strike in alone to challenge an Avatar of Khaine--killing it in one round with his TL bolters (It had already been wounded, BUT STILL).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 04:36:06
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Why don't people take Calgar?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 04:38:54
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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rivers64 wrote:Why don't people take Calgar?
I COULD NOT THINK OF A SOCIALLY-ACCEPTABLE WAY TO SAY I OFF THE CUFF THAT "HE IS LAME".
I dunno  Because he's an ultrasmurf, and people don't like most of the ultrasmurf characters. Something about
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 04:41:11
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Other HQ's with better chapter tactics. Automatically Appended Next Post: And Lysander does everything he does but better.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/02 04:41:25
There's just an acre of you fellas, isn't there? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 04:52:20
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Except giving brofists
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 06:18:20
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Samus_aran115 wrote:You guys put too much blame in him  Despite failing EVERY FETHING TIME, they at least managed to look cool doing it 
Remind you of someone?
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S'all fun and games until some no life troll master debates all over your space manz & ruins it for you |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 06:19:31
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Lex luthor
I called it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/02 17:36:00
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Terrifying Wraith
Training sheep, Stocking Urchins.
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:What I cant get over on the model is that flintstone's Vitamin sword. Seriously it looks more like a blundgeon weapon than a cutting one.
True. Very little of his weapon is actually a blade, most of it is weird daemon decor, and what blade there is is very blunt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/03 20:27:46
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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Darien13 wrote:The forgeworld one is sick though
EDIT: I'm not sure if forgeworld still makes it, but here's an abbadon model from them

That is indeed a mighty fine model...yeah I think he could certainly do with a remake, but with some careful converting you could do him with the new termy lord/sorcerer kit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/03 22:18:29
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Pretty much what folks have indicated already:
He's expensive.
He's not terribly mobile.
He's scary.
And the model just doesn't look quite right.
While Abbadon's a close combat machine (even if he occasionally manages to whack himself with his sword), he's not alone in that regard in the Chaos list. Kharn, Lucius and Huron also fit the bill (though without Eternal Warrior) if you're looking for the high test special characters and the standard HQ choices do a great job on their own.
I don't really have an issue with folks taking him, but it'd make sense for Abbadon to add something to the army, though I could say that about the rest of the Special Characters for that codex too. I'd also like to see that model reworked. I've tried to look at it differently a few times, but it just doesn't work for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/03 22:30:33
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Otiose in a Niche
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And then there was the novel where Abbadon has a strict policy of killing slave who look at him.
What?
I mean yeah, yeah evil and all that but...
Like, how does he even get his armor polished?
Abby long ago jumped the shark from being a credible threat to just being Dr Evil.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/04 00:05:55
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Sinewy Scourge
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I just imagined imagined Roan Atkinson as Horus.
Which would be lots of Samuel L. Jacksons' cooler than his present incarnation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/04 11:50:41
Subject: Re:Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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Honest question - why do so many people spell Abaddon as "Abbadon"? I noticed the blackshirt at my local GW store calls him Abba-don. I've always figured it's pronounced as "a bad 'un" , as in the opposite of "a good 'un".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/04 13:08:47
Subject: Re:Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Aspiring Champion wrote:Honest question - why do so many people spell Abaddon as "Abbadon"? I noticed the blackshirt at my local GW store calls him Abba-don. I've always figured it's pronounced as "a bad 'un" , as in the opposite of "a good 'un".
Gotta agree with that one. Even more confusing when you take into account that there actually IS an "Abbadon" in 40k fluff. Solomon Abbadon was the leader of the rebel Mechanicus forces on Mars during the HH. Got smashed when the loyalists built Ordinatus Mars though. Still, I imagine that he'd like to have his name back...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/04 18:43:30
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A-Bad-Un is also how I pronounce it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/05 18:04:53
Subject: Why does everyone hate Abbadon?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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samius wrote:i dont play chaos, but in the apocalypse WD he deepstruck onto the imperial objective and killed a ton of people.
He did, but ... most of them were IG IIRC.
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