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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 20:15:01
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Regular Dakkanaut
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/chaosauron/paint004.jpg
Best ever pot design as its single drops onto pallette, cheaper, and better than GW.
Im in Australia, painting in 35 degree heat (celcius) with around 35-40% humidity and its fine with a drop or two of water.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 21:39:11
Subject: Re:The new GW paints/paint pots
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Storming Storm Guardian
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I agree darkslife best paint pots ever!  I can not stand the GW ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 21:41:59
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Scuttling Genestealer
Wakefield, Yorkshire
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Privateer wet palette: Take a privateer press blister and cut the back off. Put water on the sponge provided. Put damp grease-proof paper on the top. One wet palette, zero expenditure.
Also available: the Wyrd games free wet palette.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/19 06:12:17
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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the new paint pots are horriable! whenever my brush runs out of paint on it i have to put the model down, re open the lid, put my brush in and carry on painting.
recently though, i have been putting a model behind the paint and blu-tacing the lid to the model so it stays open.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/19 07:49:01
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Does GW ever take a look on dakkadakka cause they could certainly take some hints from some stuff said on here
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DEAR SHOE,
THAT'S RIGHT YOU ARE A SHOE. THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT NOT BEING A SHOE BECAUSE IN MY MIND YOU ARE ONE AND THAT IS MOST UNFORTUNATE.
AS LONG AS I HAVE YOU CONCEPTUALIZED AS A SHOE IN MY IMAGINATION YOU SHALL REMAIN AS SUCH.
THIS MAKES ME WONDER WHETHER ALL PEOPLES AND OBJECTS CAN BE CONCEPTUALIZED AS SHOES AND THUS BECOME SUCH, GRANTING ME ABSOLUTE POWER OVER THEM. DO YOU HAVE A CLEVER ARGUMENT? NO YOU DON'T, YOU"RE A SHOE. SHOES CAN'T HAVE CLEVER ARGUMENTS.
I FEEL LIKE THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD HAS BEEN LIFTED OFF MY SHOULDERS NOW THAT EVERYTHING IS UNDER MY CONTROL, NOW THAT YOU ARE ALL SHOES. I NO LONGER HAVE TO ANSWER TO MY REGRETS AND PAST MISTAKES BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMPLY SHOES.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/19 16:28:18
Subject: Re:The new GW paints/paint pots
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Implacable Black Templar Initiate
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I to am not a fan of the new paint pots, and since I don't really have a workstation, I always have to put down what I'm painting to get more paint on my brush, takes the fun out of painting sometimes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/25 22:13:40
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
In a hole in New Zealand with internet access
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I have one of the new pots an it is annoying but i dont rage at it. My flgs does not have many of the new pots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/26 05:32:44
Subject: Re:The new GW paints/paint pots
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Nasty Nob
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Also check at a crafts store for a wet palette. They aren't free, but I found a large one for about $12 US. It will keep paint moist for several hours if left open, and for days if closed. This means I can leave paint on the palette and come back to work on something several days later if needed. Awesome.
Also, if I liked the GW paints, I would still hate the pots. However, Vallejo is cheaper, has more pigment, and comes in just about every color GW makes (and some that they have retired). Why would I be using GW now anyway? However, the GW foundation paints and washes are great (not a replacement for the old inks, but a great new tool).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/26 08:10:53
Subject: Re:The new GW paints/paint pots
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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I have 4 different GW paint pots.
The new ones I find the lids snap off.
The old ones have paint dry around the top sometimes.
The older screw top lids. When the lids get stuck they are  to get off.
And I also have a really old pot. I think it is a rubber pot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/26 20:55:34
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Weird i can always get my blobs of paint to last 40-50 odd minutes (enough to finish the highlight on a batch) and i didnt know what a wet pallete was before now. I must just be a master of watering down paint. Yaasss... EDIT haha the screw top ones were a pain, in think i still have a pot of scaly green that refuse to open a second time. Still got my boltgun metal screwtop, it is over half full and has a nice gooey texture that dilutes beautifully.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/26 21:00:03
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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To be honest, I am completely fine with the paint. Although, like almost all of you dakka users, the new pot lids are a real pain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 10:35:08
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Roarin' Runtherd
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Use a pallette? Yup, another way for waste paint. I want my paint on my models, not some pallette, wet or dry. . .
I like to paint from the lid. A drop or two of water to make it the right consistency and paint from there. Afterwards, when you close the lid, the thinner paint mixes in with the rest. I haven't had a paint pot go dry on me yet.
So, as my paints run out and I buy new ones, I will decant into the old bottles. Have done this with a few already. Also you can use the lids from wash pots on your new pots.
the worst thing about the new pots (and foundation pots) is getting paint on my thumb when I open them!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 13:32:16
Subject: Re:The new GW paints/paint pots
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Problem solved: http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Accessories/sku-down/08702
You lose a little bit of paint when you transfer it to the dropper bottles, but it's MUCH less than losing a whole pot becuase they don't seal properly and dry out. And it's much easier to use with a palette, which you should be using. You can get one from Michael's for $1 that is much MUCH better than the $5 GW palette
Use a pallette? Yup, another way for waste paint. I want my paint on my models, not some pallette, wet or dry. . .
Wow, that is...it's just...I can't...*brain explodes*
Using paint straight from the pot wastes much much MUCH more paint than a palatte. As you sit there painting with the lid open, the entire pot dries out and thickens and congeals, it skins over and blobs of slightly dried paint drip back into the pot making the paint very inconsitent and pretty much unusable as you get down to the bottom. Not to mention spilling open pots, which if you try and say you've never done then I say you're a liar or you only started painting yesterday. Using a palette, even if you keep the regular GW pots, saves you paint becuase you only move over a drop or two to the palette at a time, and then you can water it down to your preferred consistency, while the paint pot is closed and not evaporating away.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 13:42:53
Subject: Re:The new GW paints/paint pots
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Kroothawk wrote:1.) Some paints are like washes because they ARE washes  (and good ones!)
True, but there are some that seem really watered down. The last two red gores that I have purchased look like half the paint was poured out and replaced with water.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 14:48:38
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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I paint from the pot too...but I always make sure to close the pot after I take my little drop of paint out. I've suffered from paint drying out too much to not take THAT level of security.
However, if I do need to thin the paints some or mix colors, i do use a make shift palette.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 15:01:57
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Every couple of months I add a few drops of water to each of my paints and shake 'em. Keeps them ticking over.
Don't like the new pots much, they don't stay open and I like to paint from the lid sometimes, despite the fact that I do use a palette!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 17:13:06
Subject: Re:The new GW paints/paint pots
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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jadebullet wrote:staticgrass(freaking useless if you ask me. I don't own a static applicator)
Tweezers + pvc glue says whatsup.
I use Reaper master series paints though, gw changed from those octogonal pots? That sucks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 19:29:05
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Gargantuan Gargant
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While it seems like it'll be a rather unpopular opinion in this thread, I have to say that I find GW's response to these pot design complaints entirely reasonable. Maybe it sounds like painting snobbery, but a lot of these complaints seem to stem from people refusing to correct bad habits that got (gasp!) slightly more difficult to maintain.
Sure, the design isn't ideal, but I can't get behind the reasoning for so much of the complaining. Paint drying around the rim is annoying to clean, yes. There is some wastage, yes. I've had a few cases of paint spray after a stuck lid popped open suddenly. But removing a minor design point (the "locking tab" mentioned earlier) that was being misused isn't criminal.
The pot is designed to be shaken, opened, withdrawn from, and closed again. The design reflects an attempt, at least, to complement that process - that lip inside the lid isn't a palette, it directs paint from shaking (which should be done frequently) back into the pot, where it belongs; the locking tab was meant to keep the plastic hinges from unbending, inverting the tops and dripping paint into and over themselves instead of channeling it back into the pot.
Just because you got used to skidding to a stop in your old car, don't piss and moan because the new one comes with anti-lock brakes. Adapt and you'll be better off, in the long run.
[edit:] I feel I should add that I have and use several types of paint containers: newer GW wash/foundation pots (all with the "locking tab," although I let it function as intended), GW metallics in the hexagonal flip-top pots, Vallejo dropper bottles, and craft paint flip-tops (small, offset hole with a short lip, plugged by a plastic pin on the lid - functions rather well as a sort of hybrid between the open pot and dropper styles).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/28 21:13:22
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Dangerous Skeleton Champion
New Jersey
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I was thinking about this today while I was painting (the living room, not miniatures). In an ideal world, we should all paint off of palettes and never from the pot or from the "drip lip" inside. However, if GW was sincerely making their container choices based on an altruistic desire to improve our painting experience and to promote proper form, their paints would be kitted out with droppers or flip-cap squeeze tops like the ones you see in Michael's or your local craft store.
As it is now, the current generation of soft plastic "never stay open" pots are only marginally better at allowing you to control the amount of paint you apply to a palette than the previous "not really a lock tab" version. So while I agree that we should use palettes, I can totally get where Kr'aag's coming from with the wasting paint comment. GW's devotion to proper form is admirable, but at the same time it is behooves them to push that line while selling paint in pots that are less than ideal when it comes to control.
I use about 60/40 GW paints and the thicker (cheaper) "crafting granny" style acrylics from Michael's, with no appreciable difference between them. But this thread has me thinking what I really need to do is grab some of the squeezey bottles Kalamadea linked and mix / pour my own bottles. It'll save me time and heartache for those highlight mixes I end up using a lot of, and it'll make me far more likely to use the pallette like I should. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I realized today that I have not yet overturned a pot of ink or paint in my life, and I've been painting for over 20 years now. Having said that, I'm sure my time is coming, and that I've just jinxed myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/01 01:59:47
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
why do you want to know? huh? HUH?
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Stick something between the parts that hold it open ( not so good) and no more problems.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/01 18:21:27
Subject: The new GW paints/paint pots
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I'm in the 'new pots bad!' camp and for a couple of reasons.
Firstly, I tend to paint straight from the pot (or lid rather) quite often because I don't see the benefit of decanting into a palette if I'm not mixing colours or watering excessively for blending. In my experience you lose just as much from using a palette as you do from leaving a pot open for a few minutes (unless you paint outside in the Atacama). And before someone starts being condescending I have several colours that were bought during RT era that are still completely fine.
Also, from reading this thread, am I the only one that waters down the entire pot the first time I use it? Approx 1ml of water into a full pot is the least I want it thinned so it makes sense to do it straight away.
The other gripe I have with the change is that it just doesn't make sense. It's not generally considered good practice to limit your customers options when using your products. People like choice; with the old pots you could decant or you could paint from the pot/lid. Now, one of those options is removed (unless you prop it open - a paper clip works pretty well) and the product has lost functionality.
I find it unlikely that GW is embarking on an education drive to get people using palettes, in fact from their point of view if it's more likely to dry out (which I don't believe) then they're quids in as everyone has to replace dried out pots.
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