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bob the heretic wrote:
Winter Crusade The Imperium wins, Eldars kill necrons and escape, Orks kill the World Eaters and escape.

In Winter Assault, the Imperium wins. But to do so, they betray their eldar allies who get butchered by orks and chaotic warbands. They then proceed to destroy the necrons on their own, using the titan's weapons.

This is the canonical ending for Winter Assault. No escape for the eldars in this game. But the orks do manage to get away, leaving numerous pockets of resistance on the planet behind them.

bob the heretic wrote:
I will repeat one last ime for everyone
Winter Assault The Imperium wins, Eldars kill necrons and escape, Orks kill the World Eaters and escape.
Dark Crusade was a win for SM
Soulstom was a in or IG
DWII win for SM
DWII Chaos riseing SM and traitor is Avitus
DWII Retribution Chaos marines kill Heroes of Aurelia including Davian, The Eldar fined Taldeers soul stone, Captain ButtFang escapes, Tyranid die, Space marines and Iperial Guards WIN!

Just a little correction:
Winter Assault-Imperium wins, Talder was found wounded and has been captured. Escaped and it was chased to Kronus.
DoW II Retribution - Heroes of Aurelia killed Eliphas, Eldar - Imperial Guard and Space Marines all fight together against Kyras and killed him. Talder has been returned to Ulthwe, Adrastia stooped the exterminatus and Angelos has become chapter master of the Blood Ravens.

Relic comfirmed that that the Eldar ending is the ral one on Winter Assualt and the Orks. Taldeer did not escape from Lorn to Kronus she led her forces there!
The Imperium also wone for Winter Assualt but the ending is the Eldars one.

In retribution Eliphas dies but he kills Davain Thule and many other Blood Ravens.

bob the heretic wrote:Relic comfirmed that that the Eldar ending is the ral one on Winter Assualt and the Orks. Taldeer did not escape from Lorn to Kronus she led her forces there!
The Imperium also wone for Winter Assualt but the ending is the Eldars one.

The Dawn of War: Tempest say othervise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000:_Dawn_of_War:_Winter_Assault#Canonical_Ending

In retribution Eliphas dies but he kills Davain Thule and many other Blood Ravens.

And where did you hear that?
Relic didn't say anything about canonical ending - yet. And some people suggest that Venerable Dreadnought from SM campaign ( the one that can be deployed instead of Martelus ) is in fact Thule.

Forge World also sells Blood Raven transfer sheets.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-Accessories/BLOOD-RAVENS-TRANSFER-SHEET.html

Why have them in the codexes and sell their products if they're not cannon?

My best guess as to the ending of Retribution (cuz there's no official word yet) is that it's a combo of SM and Eldar. Also IG is possible, but not needed to continue the story.

An older WD lists Angelos as the Chapter Master while he was a captain in the games, and the nid ending of Retribution mentions it being... i think 47 years ago... 40 something anyway. I havn't seen any dates for DoW, but I'm thinking this is all history and not new events. It's cannon, and it might be the stories of how the Blood Ravens came to be what they are. Just speculation on the date thing though.

Brother Coa wrote:Why Dawn of War storyline is not consider a fluff?
Every time I tell something judging on DoW storyline the people just say " not considered a fluff". Why?

It's not a publication of Games Workshop.

As crappy as Goto's books were, they are still technically canon until GW comes along and says otherwise. According to Goto's book, Gabriel Angelos comes to find the IG victorious, and that they have begun repairing the Titan. His story does allow for Taldeer to be alive, as she does escape the Imperium's clutches, and she escapes in a rather intersting way so that the Imperium still has a reason for pursuing her.

In Dark Crusade, the Space Marines won, but took heavy casualties storming Victory Bay.

In Soulstorm, the IG won (but it's not impossible for the Eldar to have won too, as they just left anyway).

That's the canon of the original Dawn of War games, still waiting for Retribution, so I can't ocmment on that one.

Retribution is most likely a SM victory, although the Storylines are not mutually exclusive.

Grey Templar wrote:Retribution is most likely a SM victory, although the Storylines are not mutually exclusive.

I agree with that. The SM victory, with Kyras dead and Angelos as a chapter master, seems to be the logical continuation of the DOW games.

From what I understood, it was the Force Commadner from Dow II / Chaos Rising who was the traitor, at least that's what Tarkus told me when he came out of the closet.

Laodamia wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:Retribution is most likely a SM victory, although the Storylines are not mutually exclusive.

I agree with that. The SM victory, with Kyras dead and Angelos as a chapter master, seems to be the logical continuation of the DOW games.

My guess is Andrastia hired the Orks, and the Eldar joined up with the Space Marines, all to try to prevent the exterminatus (and for the Eldar, to retrieve a certain soulstone).

I would hate to see the Kaptin dead...

Melissia wrote:

Laodamia wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:Retribution is most likely a SM victory, although the Storylines are not mutually exclusive.

I agree with that. The SM victory, with Kyras dead and Angelos as a chapter master, seems to be the logical continuation of the DOW games.

My guess is Andrastia hired the Orks, and the Eldar joined up with the Space Marines, all to try to prevent the exterminatus (and for the Eldar, to retrieve a certain soulstone).

I would hate to see the Kaptin dead...

I don't even think he dies in the SM ending. I'll have to check. But I agree, it would definitely be a shame if Kaptin Bluddflagg dies in the canonical ending for Retribution.

Woops, wrong thread, I was in the Tau one and came over here ona tangent.