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Balance wrote:Flame of War stuff...

Multiple tabs open and wrong thread perhaps sir?

I just saw the finecast examples in the press release, they look pretty good to me. I was surprised at the Autarch, a model I hadn't seen in a while, but distinctly remember building in metal when it was new. At least from the photos, the feathers in the wings look very sharp. detailed and well proportioned, enough for me to suspect there might be something more to the resin thing, as in claims of additional detail improvements may be legitimate, curious.



Of course this is cleaned up and possibly retouched, but it looks like the details are very crispy, in the wings especially and on the badge on the head too.

I'd really love to get my hands on one opf these and test the resin, and see the sprues on the production runs.

The Gandalf they have up looks like a classic offender of the too fragil;e for the table top, look at the little staff piece!



Is it just me or does the bottom of the staff look curved? Hmmmm...

Resin to me is just a less durable material. Maybe they were sick of seeing GW models from 15yrs ago still selling and clogging up "their" market?

These are probably going to be shipped out in small boxes on sprue. I can't see them surviving in a blister pack. Since there are no new models there's no reason for me to buy one over a metal mini second hand.

bolo wrote:In case you guys haven't seen.

Queek Headtaker, Skaven character, in "finecast"....

That image would seem to put paid to the rumour that the resin was using the same spin-cast moulds as the metals. It might be spin-cast, but the metals aren't cast on a frame like that.

So that right there is presumably how GW would 'justify' the price increase (assuming that they bother to do so)... and also why they didn't simply reissue the entire metal range in one fell swoop. If everything has to be remoulded, it's going to take a while.


On the detail front, the Autarch pic does look quite sharp, but it's hard to tell how much of that is simply down to the fact that resin photographs better than metal, so the detail is more apparent.

Augustus wrote:

Balance wrote:Flame of War stuff...

Multiple tabs open and wrong thread perhaps sir?

I just saw the finecast examples in the press release, they look pretty good to me. I was surprised at the Autarch, a model I hadn't seen in a while, but distinctly remember building in metal when it was new. At least from the photos, the feathers in the wings look very sharp. detailed and well proportioned, enough for me to suspect there might be something more to the resin thing, as in claims of additional detail improvements may be legitimate, curious.



Of course this is cleaned up and possibly retouched, but it looks like the details are very crispy, in the wings especially and on the badge on the head too.

I'd really love to get my hands on one opf these and test the resin, and see the sprues on the production runs.

Metal version.
The finecast copy has the shoulder turned in the shoulders+wings are not presenting a 100% square profile like the metal version. Giving the illusion of greater detail height on the leading edge.

insaniak wrote:On the detail front, the Autarch pic does look quite sharp, but it's hard to tell how much of that is simply down to the fact that resin photographs better than metal, so the detail is more apparent.

Yes thats true. I hadnt considered that the soft grey probably works a lot better than the potentially reflective silver of metal.

I confirmed with my LGS contact that they are ordering these already (today) and I expect to pick up a couple this Saturday and check it out. Maybe a written review with images would be cool? I'll try it if I can find the time! I am ordering a couple space wolf special characters I didn't have before. A Logan and a Njal.

Augustus wrote:

insaniak wrote:On the detail front, the Autarch pic does look quite sharp, but it's hard to tell how much of that is simply down to the fact that resin photographs better than metal, so the detail is more apparent.

Yes thats true. I hadnt considered that the soft grey probably works a lot better than the potentially reflective silver of metal.

I confirmed with my LGS contact that they are ordering these already (today) and I expect to pick up a couple this Saturday and check it out. Maybe a written review with images would be cool? I'll try it if I can find the time! I am ordering a couple space wolf special characters I didn't have before. A Logan and a Njal.

Break one for us, seriously.

Vandil wrote:Break one for us, seriously.

You know I might.

I think I am definitely going to write a review, what I'd love to do is get a resin one I already have a clean metal version of, I have a Lysander? and a Terminator Chaplain, not the best examples of thin fine models, but maybe. I'll see what I can do.

EDIT:

Yea side by side images would be awesome! I'm gunna try.

Setting aside the price increase, which probably would have happened regardless (it is summertime, after all), I'm actually excited about resin. I can't stand metal models and look forward to whatever Necrons get released in finecast when they are redone.

I guess I'm cautiously optimistic.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

MandalorynOranj wrote:As much as this'll be easier to work with than metal, it's definitely way overhyped.

Of course it's over-hyped, they have to in order to make the price increase easier to swallow as well as draw attention away from the fact that the switch to resin was to make use of a cheaper casting material.

And to cover up the fact that other companies were producing in resin before GW.

The thing which baffles me is how does this affect Forgeworld? I mean it can't claim to be any different to regular GW models now can it? Are they going to be eaten up back into the core business or what?

This is the email reply I got from Dan@GW when I emailed him the two photos I posted above and asked him how exactly the Finecast was more detailed or acceptably durable cast in resin.

Hey there,
They are exactly the same, the painted model is a resin one. In fact, it’s actually the same miniature before and after painting. A lot of the ‘Eavy Metal painted models are actually resin miniatures already so it’s not a surprise that they look the same. I do agree that you should wait until you see them in person before you choose to buy any. The pictures are good, but they really don’t do the miniatures justice. When you get the chance, check them out and see what you think. Even if you just get one to try out. As for being brittle, the resin is very flexible, not like Forge World resin which can snap easily. As I said, take a look at them first and see what you think.
Dan

That's... Actually refreshingly honest coming from a GW employee.

Llamahead wrote:The thing which baffles me is how does this affect Forgeworld? I mean it can't claim to be any different to regular GW models now can it? Are they going to be eaten up back into the core business or what?

From the sound, I'd guess minimal change at best.

Forge World is still the division to handle large resin stuff that isn't justifiable as plastics (which, of course, may change at times if it makes sense to do a kit in plastic), odd hobby stuff (the etched brass stuff) and small oddities and such.

Finecast replaces most all 'metal' minis from the main GW line.

Plastics are still the ultimate destination, I'd guess. Changing the entire line to plastic would probably be a lot more difficult than it seems.

Indeed, Forge World is and remaisn for large resin pieces, and things like DKoK...this shouldn't hurt Forge World too much at all.