Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
2011/09/06 01:58:11
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Skydiving and bungee jumping is nice and all, but this lady's got bigger balls than all of them!
She and any other climbers that free solo huge climbs have my utmost respect, just for the sheer balls and athleticism they've got to have to be able to do this.
The best is when they show the whole rock face, and then zoom in on her. It shows you just how tiny she is in comparison to the wall she's climbing, and how far she'd fall if she made a single mistake. It's around 4:50, I believe.
And for those of you that don't know climbing jargon, free soloing is climbing a route with no protection whatsoever.
2011/09/06 02:43:09
Subject: If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
murdog wrote:Awesome video! That's now on my bucket list...
Watching a video is on your bucket list?
DR:70+S+G-MB-I+Pwmhd05#+D++A+++/aWD100R++T(S)DM+++ Get your own Dakka Code!
"...he could never understand the sense of a contest in which the two adversaries agreed upon the rules." Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude
2011/09/07 10:17:37
Subject: If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
The flying video was pretty awesome. I have seen them do that in other videos where they jump off a mountain and zip around it, flying by cars on roads as they go down. I will look for it.
That video of the dude climbing the tower? At one point I had to look away and I get crazy nervous. I did not realize my fear was that strong.
It is weird, I LOVE flying. But the idea of climbing something with no safety net? Get that away from me.....
2011/09/07 12:35:34
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
rubiksnoob wrote:Skydiving and bungee jumping is nice and all, but this lady's got bigger balls than all of them!
She and any other climbers that free solo huge climbs have my utmost respect, just for the sheer balls and athleticism they've got to have to be able to do this.
The best is when they show the whole rock face, and then zoom in on her. It shows you just how tiny she is in comparison to the wall she's climbing, and how far she'd fall if she made a single mistake. It's around 4:50, I believe.
And for those of you that don't know climbing jargon, free soloing is climbing a route with no protection whatsoever.
Something I would never ever even remotely think about doing is that. No fething way. Props to those that do, but whoever does that, has their gak seriously out of wack
2011/09/07 17:25:20
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
rubiksnoob wrote:Skydiving and bungee jumping is nice and all, but this lady's got bigger balls than all of them!
She and any other climbers that free solo huge climbs have my utmost respect, just for the sheer balls and athleticism they've got to have to be able to do this...
...And for those of you that don't know climbing jargon, free soloing is climbing a route with no protection whatsoever.
Something I would never ever even remotely think about doing is that. No fething way. Props to those that do, but whoever does that, has their gak seriously out of wack
Yeah, Steph is a heroine in the climbing world. For some real insanity, look up Dean Potter. He free soloed El Cap and Half Dome.
In one day.
Never bungeed or Skydived, though they're on the someday list. I have free soloed though. Both at least 3 grades (a 5.6 and 5.7, when I was at a 5.10 level) under my current competence and the harder of the two I had climbed roped previously. Both were just single pitch 50-60 footers and nothing to write home about against what top flight climbers are doing, but I'm glad I did it. It is a rush (of course) and felt completely unlike anything else I've done before.
Now that I have a child, I'm not sure if I'd free solo again, but never say never...
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/09/07 17:26:50
rubiksnoob wrote:Skydiving and bungee jumping is nice and all, but this lady's got bigger balls than all of them!
She and any other climbers that free solo huge climbs have my utmost respect, just for the sheer balls and athleticism they've got to have to be able to do this...
...And for those of you that don't know climbing jargon, free soloing is climbing a route with no protection whatsoever.
Something I would never ever even remotely think about doing is that. No fething way. Props to those that do, but whoever does that, has their gak seriously out of wack
Yeah, Steph is a heroine in the climbing world. For some real insanity, look up Dean Potter. He free soloed El Cap and Half Dome.
In one day.
Never bungeed or Skydived, though they're on the someday list. I have free soloed though. Both at least 3 grades (a 5.6 and 5.7, when I was at a 5.10 level) under my current competence and the harder of the two I had climbed roped previously. Both were just single pitch 50-60 footers and nothing to write home about against what top flight climbers are doing, but I'm glad I did it. It is a rush (of course) and felt completely unlike anything else I've done before.
Now that I have a child, I'm not sure if I'd free solo again, but never say never...
Ah yeah, Dean Potter is a little crazy, no, a lot crazy!
And props to you for doing that, man. I've never free soloed before. I prefer bouldering most of the time, so if I fall the worst I'm looking at is usually a few bumps and bruises.
2011/09/08 03:04:22
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
2011/09/08 17:26:50
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
2011/09/08 17:39:53
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Did anyone else think of the spiderman theme song as he climbed up that 90 degree rock face?
That guy is a fething maniac!
Also...does climbing up one of those rock climbing walls with no equipment qualify as free soloing? That's the closest I've ever gotten to that brand of insanity...
2011/09/08 18:08:48
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Lordhat wrote:This guy was a little too crazy for his own good.
Dude, you're sending me down memory lane!
I remember reading about Dan Osman back in the day in climbing magazines. His Dynos (where both arms come off the rock) are really intense. Normally dynos are for roped routes and boulderng. Soloists usually try to keep at least 2 points of contact (at least one hand) at all times! He's obviously really really familar with that route (if the massive amounts of chalk on the holds didn't give it away) but it's still darned impressive.
WARORK93 wrote:
Also...does climbing up one of those rock climbing walls with no equipment qualify as free soloing? That's the closest I've ever gotten to that brand of insanity...
Good question. Are you talking about bouldering (low climibing under 15 feet or so) or higher vertical climbing.
I work at a Climbing wall occasionally, and I think that most folks who have free soloed would say it's different, but it's not completely different and it can certainly be as dangerous.
2 differences.
1)It's different in the way that A 5.10 climber can't really claim the "title" of 5.10 until they've done so outdoors. They can tell folks they've climbed 5.10 indoors, but generically calling themselves a 5.10 climber is considered misleading.
2) A climbing wall generally has more than one marked"route" on it so even if you're "free soloing" on a 5.9 on a climbing wall, the sum of all the holds on the wall might be a 5.6 or so. Saying you had free soloed 5.9 (even if you followed the 5.9 route) would be considered disingenuous because there were many other holds present that you could use if things got to hairy, whereas on a 5.9 rock route, the sum of all the holds present is a 5.9.
No disrespect to you or your acomplishments intended by the above. Just wanted to answer your question as throughly as possible.
Climb On!
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/09/08 18:09:47
Eilif wrote:Good question. Are you talking about bouldering (low climibing under 15 feet or so) or higher vertical climbing.
I work at a Climbing wall occasionally, and I think that most folks who have free soloed would say it's different, but it's not completely different and it can certainly be as dangerous.
2 differences.
1)It's different in the way that A 5.10 climber can't really claim the "title" of 5.10 until they've done so outdoors. They can tell folks they've climbed 5.10 indoors, but generically calling themselves a 5.10 climber is considered misleading.
2) A climbing wall generally has more than one marked"route" on it so even if you're "free soloing" on a 5.9 on a climbing wall, the sum of all the holds on the wall might be a 5.6 or so. Saying you had free soloed 5.9 (even if you followed the 5.9 route) would be considered disingenuous because there were many other holds present that you could use if things got to hairy, whereas on a 5.9 rock route, the sum of all the holds present is a 5.9.
No disrespect to you or your accomplishments intended by the above. Just wanted to answer your question as thoroughly as possible.
Climb On!
Thanks but that was meant more as a joke...I have no clue what the numbers you refer to mean, I'm assuming they have something to do with difficulty...
The wall in question was outdoors and it was about 60 feet up...I was a lot younger back then, had no sense of what could get me killed, and the desire to impress my friends in public...I took their dare while nobody was looking and somehow made it to the top without falling...leaving me with the distinct memory of sitting on a sixty foot wall with no way to get down...
Not at all claiming that I'm anywhere near the guy in the video's skill, just joking about the fact that I got really lucky when I tried to do something like that and ended up not breaking myself in half in the process...
2011/09/08 19:49:20
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
WARORK93 wrote:[Thanks but that was meant more as a joke...I have no clue what the numbers you refer to mean, I'm assuming they have something to do with difficulty...
The wall in question was outdoors and it was about 60 feet up...I was a lot younger back then, had no sense of what could get me killed, and the desire to impress my friends in public...I took their dare while nobody was looking and somehow made it to the top without falling...leaving me with the distinct memory of sitting on a sixty foot wall with no way to get down...
Not at all claiming that I'm anywhere near the guy in the video's skill, just joking about the fact that I got really lucky when I tried to do something like that and ended up not breaking myself in half in the process...
Lordhat wrote:This guy was a little too crazy for his own good.
I have absolutely no respect for people who do stupid gak like that. It makes me sad when you see someone dying of cancer who would give anything to live but he's there risking his life for no reason whatsoever. I always find it funny when they die doing stupid gak and people are like "OMG I can't believe it", "How could this happen?".... How do you think it happened?
The question isn't why do I kill. The question is, why I don't kill everybody.
2011/09/08 22:00:31
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Lordhat wrote:This guy was a little too crazy for his own good.
I have absolutely no respect for people who do stupid gak like that. It makes me sad when you see someone dying of cancer who would give anything to live but he's there risking his life for no reason whatsoever. I always find it funny when they die doing stupid gak and people are like "OMG I can't believe it", "How could this happen?".... How do you think it happened?
I on the other hand have an emmense respect for people like that. I can see where it would look reckless, but it bears remembering that these are not random acts of a crazy wierdo. What you see on the video is the result of years of training, and many climbs up the route with a rope until every move is coreographed in the mind. All this is followed by a several free solos, long before the timed trial shown above.
The nearest corrolation is to circus trapeeze artists who work without a net. Of course it takes alot of bravery -and perhaps a touch of crazy- to do these things, but these people are professionals (yes, many climbers are paid professionals) operating at the height of their craft.
Also, Mr. Osman is a climber, not a corporate polluter pouring chemicals into our air and water supplies. Perhaps cancer anger would be better directed at folks who have a hand in actually causing it.
Lordhat wrote:This guy was a little too crazy for his own good.
I have absolutely no respect for people who do stupid gak like that. It makes me sad when you see someone dying of cancer who would give anything to live but he's there risking his life for no reason whatsoever. I always find it funny when they die doing stupid gak and people are like "OMG I can't believe it", "How could this happen?".... How do you think it happened?
I on the other hand have an emmense respect for people like that. I can see where it would look reckless, but it bears remembering that these are not random acts of a crazy wierdo. What you see on the video is the result of years of training, and many climbs up the route with a rope until every move is coreographed in the mind. All this is followed by a several free solos, long before the timed trial shown above.
The nearest corrolation is to circus trapeeze artists who work without a net. Of course it takes alot of bravery -and perhaps a touch of crazy- to do these things, but these people are professionals (yes, many climbers are paid professionals) operating at the height of their craft.
Also, Mr. Osman is a climber, not a corporate polluter pouring chemicals into our air and water supplies. Perhaps cancer anger would be better directed at folks who have a hand in actually causing it.
You also have to remember that these people are living. You're never more alive then in that moment before death. Those people in the cancer ward are dying and that's sad. But what would they give to do what these people are? To grab life by the throat, kick death in the nuts and say 'not today'. Eilif is right, these people have trained for months, if not years to pull this stuff off. And the people saying 'OMG, how could this happen?!?' are morons. The slightest mistake and you die in these scenarios. It's part of the rush. I have sympathy for their families, but for the guy who fell off the cliff? Not a bit. Why? He died doing what he fething loved! I guess it comes down to the old quantity of life vs. quality argument. I'm firmly in the quality camp.
Btw, as someone who's done the bungee jumping, climbing, shark diving and skydiving, the sky diving was the greatest rush. The shark diving... I've never been more at peace. I suggest to anyone who'll listen to find what you're afraid of... and then do it. As for the OP, I want to do this! I've seen the vid where they've jumped off the cliff, and are buzzing traffic on the road, and it was awesome! Getting into the flying fox suit and jumping is next on my list of extreme things to do:p
ChrisWWII wrote:"Yea verily, though I pass through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil for I am driving a house sized mass of FETH YOU!"
themocaw wrote:I view slaanesh as a giant ball of boobs and genitalia of both sexes.
Edmondblack: There's something about some str10, AP2 blast weaponry which says "i love you" in that very special way.
2011/09/09 00:20:12
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Lordhat wrote:This guy was a little too crazy for his own good.
I have absolutely no respect for people who do stupid gak like that. It makes me sad when you see someone dying of cancer who would give anything to live but he's there risking his life for no reason whatsoever. I always find it funny when they die doing stupid gak and people are like "OMG I can't believe it", "How could this happen?".... How do you think it happened?
So people like Osman shouldn't do what they love to do because some other people are sitting in hospitals and dying from cancer? I'm sorry, but I don't see your logic at all.
And it's not "for no reason whatsoever". It's about accomplishing something that truly tests you, mentally, physically, and spiritually.
And it's about accomplishing something that scared little people like you would never even try.
And hey, if you die doing it, then at least you died doing something that you loved, rather than wasting away in a hospital.
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/09/09 00:21:42
2011/09/09 02:46:19
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
2011/09/09 03:04:59
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Lordhat wrote:This guy was a little too crazy for his own good.
I have absolutely no respect for people who do stupid gak like that. It makes me sad when you see someone dying of cancer who would give anything to live but he's there risking his life for no reason whatsoever. I always find it funny when they die doing stupid gak and people are like "OMG I can't believe it", "How could this happen?".... How do you think it happened?
So people like Osman shouldn't do what they love to do because some other people are sitting in hospitals and dying from cancer? I'm sorry, but I don't see your logic at all.
And it's not "for no reason whatsoever". It's about accomplishing something that truly tests you, mentally, physically, and spiritually.
And it's about accomplishing something that scared little people like you would never even try.
And hey, if you die doing it, then at least you died doing something that you loved, rather than wasting away in a hospital.
And that's an insult in your world? I'll be scared, normal and alive, thank you very much. You and the other idiots can risk your life and die happily if that's what you want.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/09/09 03:05:27
The question isn't why do I kill. The question is, why I don't kill everybody.
2011/09/09 03:28:21
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Lordhat wrote:This guy was a little too crazy for his own good.
I have absolutely no respect for people who do stupid gak like that. It makes me sad when you see someone dying of cancer who would give anything to live but he's there risking his life for no reason whatsoever. I always find it funny when they die doing stupid gak and people are like "OMG I can't believe it", "How could this happen?".... How do you think it happened?
So people like Osman shouldn't do what they love to do because some other people are sitting in hospitals and dying from cancer? I'm sorry, but I don't see your logic at all.
And it's not "for no reason whatsoever". It's about accomplishing something that truly tests you, mentally, physically, and spiritually.
And it's about accomplishing something that scared little people like you would never even try.
And hey, if you die doing it, then at least you died doing something that you loved, rather than wasting away in a hospital.
You and the other idiots can risk your life and die happily if that's what you want.
Yep, it is.
I mean honestly, would you prefer to die miserable? I know I wouldn't.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/09/09 03:29:02
2011/09/09 05:08:50
Subject: If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
I find it amusing that you even admit that to be normal, you're scared. Feth normal. Enjoy never really living. There's a reason us adrenaline junkies are around. Once you get that high, once you push that envelope, once you feel truely alive... you never want to go back. After a jump everything is better. Your food tastes better, your life seems awesome. My suggestion? start small and work your way up. Then when you've 'done the deed' get yourself laid cause that's even better too! LOL
ChrisWWII wrote:"Yea verily, though I pass through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil for I am driving a house sized mass of FETH YOU!"
themocaw wrote:I view slaanesh as a giant ball of boobs and genitalia of both sexes.
Edmondblack: There's something about some str10, AP2 blast weaponry which says "i love you" in that very special way.
2011/09/09 13:24:53
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
MrH wrote:I have absolutely no respect for people who do stupid gak like that. It makes me sad when you see someone dying of cancer who would give anything to live but he's there risking his life for no reason whatsoever. I always find it funny when they die doing stupid gak and people are like "OMG I can't believe it", "How could this happen?".... How do you think it happened?
And it's not "for no reason whatsoever". It's about accomplishing something that truly tests you, mentally, physically, and spiritually.
And it's about accomplishing something that scared little people like you would never even try.
Wait a second, I disagree fundamentally with MrH on the relative value of such pursuits, but theres no reason to put down someone or label them because they don't want to try a particular activity. Also, as any honest climber will tell you fear -whether as an impetus to avoid, or channeled into part of the rush- is part of the equasion for the climber and the non-climber.
Futher, I think there is just as much potential for nobility, intentionality and purpose in a life of balanced restraint and as in a life spent pushing the boundaries.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/09/09 13:27:12
Eilif wrote:
Futher, I think there is just as much potential for nobility, intentionality and purpose in a life of balanced restraint and as in a life spent pushing the boundaries.
Like House Hufflepuff and House Gryffindor! Am I right?
DR:70+S+G-MB-I+Pwmhd05#+D++A+++/aWD100R++T(S)DM+++ Get your own Dakka Code!
"...he could never understand the sense of a contest in which the two adversaries agreed upon the rules." Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude
2011/09/09 14:11:40
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
rubiksnoob wrote:I mean honestly, would you prefer to die miserable? I know I wouldn't.
I just don't see how using some basic safety equipment would make you "miserable" and ruin the experience for you. There's plenty of adrenaline junky activities that are a lot safer than climbing a rock face with no equipment.
The question isn't why do I kill. The question is, why I don't kill everybody.
2011/09/09 14:27:50
Subject: Re:If you're not afraid of heights, this is awesome.
Eilif wrote:
Futher, I think there is just as much potential for nobility, intentionality and purpose in a life of balanced restraint and as in a life spent pushing the boundaries.
Like House Hufflepuff and House Gryffindor! Am I right?
That seems like as good an analogy as any. Another might be the Monk and the Warrior.
MrH wrote:
I just don't see how using some basic safety equipment would make you "miserable" and ruin the experience for you. There's plenty of adrenaline junky activities that are a lot safer than climbing a rock face with no equipment.
Whether or not it would "ruin" the experience is not so important as the fundamental difference between the two activities. Experientially there is a very big difference between the Rock Climbing with protection (sometimes referred to as "free climbing" because the protection is there for safety and not to aid the ascent) which is statistically quite safe and Free Soloing which is truely a life or death activity.
I can't explain it exactly, but it is very different in both emotion and intensity.
Getting into the flying fox suit and jumping is next on my list of extreme things to do:p
