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No, but I would reserve judgment until more information is available.

Which, given their secrecy, is going to happen... when?

Melissia wrote:That doesn't necessarily mean it's better.

They probably get to wear cool SWAT/paramilitary clothing though.


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Melissia wrote:Which, given their secrecy, is going to happen... when?

Indeed. Of the thwarted terrorists attacks in the US, how many were actually thwarted by the TSA again?

Melissia wrote:Which, given their secrecy, is going to happen... when?

Well, there is a wikipedia article that lists the job titles of VIPR team members, and I imagine that could be used to find job qualifications for each position.


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Indeed. Of the thwarted terrorists attacks in the US, how many were actually thwarted by the TSA again?

What do you consider a "thwarted terrorist attack" to be?

Which doesn't say how they're actually trained for the job...

Melissia wrote:Which doesn't say how they're actually trained for the job...

Qualifications are about the best you can expect to find for any job that isn't military, including the FBI and CIA.

So they have moved from the airports out onto the highways?

Woudn't it be more logical to send all of the TSA agents to the various countries of origin and have them harrass the actual terrorists before they board flights to this coutry?

Sort of a "dill weed foreign Legion".

I guess Alex Jones was right after all.

Melissia wrote:I consider an expansion of said measures to be undesirable, yes. It's the job of the FBI and CIA to keep track of things on the ground, they're trained for it... the TSA isn't. It'd be like if you rounded up air force pilots and sent them off to fight with M16s in place of the Marines...

... except that comparison is unfair to the air force pilots really. They're more competent than the average TSA employee.

That's stretching it a bit. Most of the pilots I work with are idiots who over-G the aircraft, then feth up the landing so bad that they shear off the tail booms on MY assigned jet.

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And the main point of the TSA is much like a regular security guard, detecting and deterring. They are preventative teams, not reactionary (like the FBI, CIA, etc.) It's impossible to quantify the value of assets saved when an incident is deterred.

A good example is how security guard contracts work. A site will have a break in, and will hire security to protect the property. Six months goes by, and nothing happens. Security arrests nobody because people see the guard and know that their chances of being caught are increased. The client sees this as six months of wasted money because no results were produced. They fire the security, and stuff gets stolen.

Only when you remove the TSA will you be able to quantify how much loss could have been prevented.