Switch Theme:

Full on 5 th ed eldar codex, full PDF with art and fluff. (Updated 26 Nov)  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Calm Celestian






Ireland

Okay, I modded some psychic powers and spirit stones along with some point changes to Fire Dragons, Night spinners and Fire prisms.

"Suffering is Faith, Faith is Strength.

Generations have suffered with the same devotion that we can offer but once. Still, our Faith leads us through these dark times like a beacon. It will guide us to triumph over these abominations. Either by breaking them upon us like waves against a limitless, golden peak or by thrusting through them like the spear of the Immortal Emperor Himself." - Cannoness Aoife, Order of the desert rose #Yesallwomen

Just finished my second album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptvBO4vwb-A 
   
Made in us
Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade





o_O

I just noticed, Yriel makes a single Wraithlord a troops choice.

Iyanna should have some work done with the Armour of Vale. Since it's replacing her armour and any possible invuln save, I'd say how about just lowering the leadership to 9 instead of 10?

Why does Nuadhu make Vyper's troops and not something else? Like shining spears?

Why the nerf to Runes of Warding? That's one of the flip sides of Eldar, most of their powers are defensive, but they can harass enemy psykers from across the board.

Your Solitaire has 7 attacks on the charge for 100 points. With furious charge? Seems a little overkill to me, even if they are "only" rending

Can't remember if I said this before or not but... I like what you've done with Karandras. I always felt that him having to rely on a powerfist to do anything defeated the purpose of using a phoenix lord.

Mirror swords, yowza. 6 power weapon attacks on the charge from that Exarch. Seems a bit much. What about dropping it down to +2 and you get re-rolls to-hit in combat? (Which will give you more hits anyways, I believe)

Why do the fire dragons' heavy flamer only have AP5 instead of the usual AP4?

Chances of increasing the Wraithgun to 18" instead of 12"?

Eldar Snipers lost the AP shots on to-hit rolls?

Isn't the Sunrifle good enough at 6 shots?

That Tempest Launcher is the god of all marine Killers when combined with exarch powers. Maybe drop it to two shots instead of three?

Starcannon still only two shots? :(

You're Autarch entry still states he can take a troop of Guardian Jetbikes.

The points look much better to my eyes though, and thinks are certainly coming along.


This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/11/27 08:43:16


 
   
Made in us
Calm Celestian






Ireland

Yeah, Yriel is awesome. I wanted him to do something beyond what Wraithguard get to do already.

Yeah, lowering her LD makes sense. She does have the chance of becoming invulnerable.

Nuadhu's old rules were basically he was a Vyper with an Autarch atop of it. Allowing the vehicle to make combat attacks but still be picked out as a monstrous creature. I decided to streamline his rules and make him a jetbike but keep some of his old flavour. That being said, making a Vyper a Troop is pretty versatile. I believe that it makes the list much more flexible.

I figure that 'Runes of Warding' would go down to 24'' like psychichoods are now. Just a game balance tweak I feel would happen in the new codex.

I always thought Karandras was underpowered, as were most of the Phoenix lords. I always liked him tho. Wanted to make him a beast.

Yeah, I lowered Mirror swords and tweaked them like you said. That makes a lot more sense.

I think the Wraithgun at 12'' works better, especially with the tweaks to Wraithguards.

Yeah, they're just normal 'Rending' now. I dropped their points accordingly. I figured regular Rending was good enough for them with a point drop. Plus all GW things switched over to Rending now from last editions. I figure that would be something they'd change.

Yes, the Sunrifle is fine at 6 shots. I am bad at typing.

Yeah, I'm going back and forth on the Tempest launcher. I didn't full think about Relentless in combination with the weapon.

Yes, Starcannons are still only two shots but they're points are dropped accordingly. To where they should be without being over or underpowered.

I fixed the Autarch as well. Thank you.

"Suffering is Faith, Faith is Strength.

Generations have suffered with the same devotion that we can offer but once. Still, our Faith leads us through these dark times like a beacon. It will guide us to triumph over these abominations. Either by breaking them upon us like waves against a limitless, golden peak or by thrusting through them like the spear of the Immortal Emperor Himself." - Cannoness Aoife, Order of the desert rose #Yesallwomen

Just finished my second album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptvBO4vwb-A 
   
Made in us
Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade





Celtic Strike wrote:Yeah, Yriel is awesome. I wanted him to do something beyond what Wraithguard get to do already.


Understandable. But a Toughness 8 guy with a 5+ FnPmight be one tough cookie to bring down off an objective.


Yeah, lowering her LD makes sense. She does have the chance of becoming invulnerable.


My thoughts exactly.

Nuadhu's old rules were basically he was a Vyper with an Autarch atop of it. Allowing the vehicle to make combat attacks but still be picked out as a monstrous creature. I decided to streamline his rules and make him a jetbike but keep some of his old flavour. That being said, making a Vyper a Troop is pretty versatile. I believe that it makes the list much more flexible.


Flexible, perhaps. Worth the points? Not so sure on that one, as Vypers wouldn't be able to score objectives. So in 2/3rds of the games you play, they'd just be filling up valuable troop slots and making it harder for you to capture (Though Eldar tend to have an easier time in objective games than most)

I figure that 'Runes of Warding' would go down to 24'' like psychichoods are now. Just a game balance tweak I feel would happen in the new codex.


Eh, I don't recall hoods ever being board wide, but I've only been around since fourth. I would be surprised if they made the change though. It's something that makes the Eldar stand out more as the dominate psyker force.

I always thought Karandras was underpowered, as were most of the Phoenix lords. I always liked him tho. Wanted to make him a beast.

Rending Chainsabres should do it. On the charge that would give him what? eight attacks? With re-rolls to-hit and to-Wound, with rending and S5 all at I7. Yeah, that should do.

Yeah, I lowered Mirror swords and tweaked them like you said. That makes a lot more sense.

Cool, glad to help.

I think the Wraithgun at 12'' works better, especially with the tweaks to Wraithguards.

Fair enough. Though some thoughts on how to make the unit be able to fire their guns more than once before being charged would be nice.

Yeah, they're just normal 'Rending' now. I dropped their points accordingly. I figured regular Rending was good enough for them with a point drop. Plus all GW things switched over to Rending now from last editions. I figure that would be something they'd change.

Well, either way they would need a points drop. While we're not sure what 6th edition will bring to the sniper rules, as they are now, most people would say that Sniper units are trash and not worth their points. Even with the awesome bonuses Eldar Pathfinders have, they're still debated to be trash and too expensive. With what you've done, you've only made them slightly better than other army snipers, for slightly more points. As it stands, this unit would still debatably, be worthless in most Eldar armies. Maybe have them be Assault Sniper Rifles?

Yes, Starcannons are still only two shots but they're points are dropped accordingly. To where they should be without being over or underpowered.

Well, right now, it is still completely outclassed by the scatter laser. That's one of the real issues with the starcannon (besides the cost in the currant dex). With cover being so abundant in 5th edition, 4+ cover saves are everywhere. While yes, that AP2 would still help you bypass FnP, you're still paying a premium for it, for half the shots. Against a standard tac marine squad in cover, the scatter laser actually has a better chance at wounding them, due to it's higher rate of fire, than the starcannon. In your codex, the scatter laser, on average, costs 5 points if I recal. The starcannon and missile launcher cost 10, and the bright lance at 20. Why not up it to three shots, giving it more room to have a reason to be taken over the scatter laser, and increase it's points to 15? This will also fill the point gap left open (sorry, slight OCD about some things, saw the jump and it bugged me lol)

I fixed the Autarch as well. Thank you.

Glad I could help!
   
Made in us
Calm Celestian






Ireland

Well the Grand master of the Deamon hunters can make up to three Dreadknights troops. I think that's a tough cookie too. I think it's okay as it's only one. I'm not a 100% tho.

The Vypers should be able to score objectives, if they're Troops they should be able to right?

Yeah psychic hoods used to be table wide back a few editions ago. I still think Dark angels have the full table length hoods actually.
But with the ability to re-roll the test against enemy psychic hoods with Spirit stones, Eldar should remain a dominant psychic force.

I'm not a hundred percent sure on how to make them be able to shoot more than once other than by using terrain or charging the target unit with another unit before they can be charged. I think lengthening their range would be too much at this point.

I lowered Rangers points by 1 each after comparing them to SM scouts. They'd be hard to shift off a home objective with cloaks and smoke grenades, I gave the Wanderer 'Tanglefoot' grenades which should make them impossible to catch after an assault and their infiltration ability should really make them maneuverable when it comes to grabbing an objective. Hopefully the enemy will have a lot of other things to worry about when the eldar come calling.

Instead of upping the number of shots they get I lowered their points. Starcannons should now be equal in cost to Scatter lasers and that should make them more of an option or at least make the decision hard for the player.

"Suffering is Faith, Faith is Strength.

Generations have suffered with the same devotion that we can offer but once. Still, our Faith leads us through these dark times like a beacon. It will guide us to triumph over these abominations. Either by breaking them upon us like waves against a limitless, golden peak or by thrusting through them like the spear of the Immortal Emperor Himself." - Cannoness Aoife, Order of the desert rose #Yesallwomen

Just finished my second album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptvBO4vwb-A 
   
Made in us
Lord of the Fleet





Texas

Celtic Strike wrote:Well the Grand master of the Deamon hunters can make up to three Dreadknights troops. I think that's a tough cookie too. I think it's okay as it's only one. I'm not a 100% tho.


Well GM make them scoring, not troops


Celtic Strike wrote:The Vypers should be able to score objectives, if they're Troops they should be able to right?


Troop vehicles cannot score unless specifically noted

 
   
Made in us
Calm Celestian






Ireland

Okay, that was my confusion. I'll have Yirel and Fireheart making them scoring instead of Troops.

"Suffering is Faith, Faith is Strength.

Generations have suffered with the same devotion that we can offer but once. Still, our Faith leads us through these dark times like a beacon. It will guide us to triumph over these abominations. Either by breaking them upon us like waves against a limitless, golden peak or by thrusting through them like the spear of the Immortal Emperor Himself." - Cannoness Aoife, Order of the desert rose #Yesallwomen

Just finished my second album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptvBO4vwb-A 
   
 
Forum Index » 40K Proposed Rules
Go to: