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Marine_With_Heart wrote:

Frankenberry wrote:I'd love to see some more IG armor novels. Gunheads was great.

Gun heads was indeed great, but what other regiments could they use or where could the novel be based? I mean seeing as in Gunheads they were searching for Yarricks Baneblade, that made it have an awesome plot to follow, but stick another bunch of tanks going against some orks without a purpose like that is... well... an ordinary Black Library plot line. What other situations with the guardsmen have there been where tanks were the pivotal focus?

There was The Planus Steppes where 8,000 tank companies and 35 Super-heavy detachments were ANNIHILATED fighting a renegade Titan Legio. The battle of Goyan Valley, the complete destruction of a Tyranid vanguard as the result of a million guardsmen and thousands of tanks. The siege regiment, the Hammeront IV, are wiped out fighting demons during the Fallaxian Sourging. The fight on Saint Cyllia when the Adamant Fury Titan Legio turns renegade and Knight Commander Pask kills a titan with a Leman Russ.

That's just IG alone, what about a couple books covering some of the Vindicator/Predator gunners/pilots? You could even go traitor with the stories and do something from the side of Chaos. Hell, I think a book covering the crews of a Fire Prism squadron would be wicked cool.

Fido198674 wrote:I know you said not to buuuuut,non-imperial-orks vs. Nids, or you could make it imperial with some distant world fighting a small waaagh when the nids show up and then go from there

Well, maybe I will roll up my sleeves and start researching the fluff of some of the non-Imperials since it sounds like this is the biggest "untapped resource" among Black Library books. Part of the reason is that human readers will generally prefer reading about humans. I know that one of the reasons I really didn't like "Avatar" was that the "good guys" were aliens and I identified more with the human "bad guys". Although this could probably be mitigated by not having the Empire be the ones that the non-human protagonists are fighting against.

The other problem I foresee is that if the non Imperial faction depicted is too different from humans, the reader may not be able to identify with them. In that regard, Eldar would probably be the the best choice for a non-Imperial BL title. ALthough I see Gav Thorpe already did one entitled "Path of the Warrior", but that covered but one of the aspect warriors (striking scoprion). I guess the Tau are the next closest to humans. Not sure who else could make an interesting story for human readers.

Panopticon wrote:I second the above, delving into the mechanics of a founding and the first actions of a new chapter would be fascinating.

Good lord no. The last thing the Black Library needs to do is make "canon" ideas which haven't been fully thought out. We still get arguments of canonicity from Ian Watson's Space Marine, or the descriptions in Rogue Trader of Marine Chapters using hive gangers and feral warriors as recruits even though the canon fluff says Marines are recruited before they are ten most of the time. Some things are best left mysterious. Like how you can create a Space Marine Chapter from scratch when that would leave it with no leadership, no experienced Marines, and effectively an entirely Scout Marine chapter with no actual Marines to lead it or train it. I mean, these are interesting questions, but not ones I feel like most BL authors are well versed enough to come up with. Especially given the lack of any official GW word on, say, a training cadre of Marines from other Chapters that are tasked with such things. If you think about it, it would take at least a hundred years probably to stand up a new Chapter, maybe longer, as you wouldn't just be able to make 1000 Space Marines and say "Ready, go."

I think if you went the creation of a Chapter route, you'd have to put disclaimer's all over the thing, so the fluff-purists didn't rape you in the reviews.

Sort of like "This works for this chapter because..." or "This chapter is the only one who...". It'd be a pretty big pain in the ass, but overall I think the end product would answer a lot of questions about SM chapters and create a series of pretty cool novels.

Then again, I'm all about the IG, which has been done and redone.

When there is no really established fluff, the purists can feth themselves if they don't like what you make up.

I would imagine every chapter has a fairly unique origin, so something for one would not have to be true for another, differences in recruiting world, trainers, parent legion, geneseed mutation and level of Inquisition involvement would all make a different start.

Let's say we start a chapter with one of the more independent minded legions as a base, perhaps Blood Angels. Now we have a bunch of new marines picked from a different planet having to learn what they can do, but wait, the AdMech or Inquisition wants to make sure they are a bit more trustworthy so they requisition trainers and temporary leaders from say the Ultramarines in an attempt to keep them more to Codex.

There are enough interesting elements there to tell a story from either a neophyte, Ultramarine, or even Inquisitor or AdMech point of view and still not keep anyone else from telling an entirely different story.

I'd say I'd like to see an Arbites book, but honestly I could just read Judge Dredd for that.

But it would be nice to see more Sisters lore. Especially if it included more than just the non-militant orders.

Why ask for more Marine lore? We're practically drowning in that crap.

I would like a novel about the noble sons of Praetoria's last stand at Ork's Drift.

I.E. - Anything involving Praetorians

How about the Sisters of Silence? Haven't heard from them in a while... My friends say they're all dead. Someone told me they still run the black ships. I don't know, they stopped after the heresy.

Or Tau stuff? I'm not a big fan of them, but there really isn't much on the Tau, or the crons..... but if you're feeling the human route, I think rogue traders would give a lot of freedom to mess around with your own ideas

Melissia wrote:I'd say I'd like to see an Arbites book, but honestly I could just read Judge Dredd for that.

I never got that impression from the Shira Calpurnia books .

But it would be nice to see more Sisters lore. Especially if it included more than just the non-militant orders.

Agreed, why not the orders FFG presented like the Sister Familius(sorry if its wrong spelling) or the Medical sisters.

Why ask for more Marine lore? We're practically drowning in that crap.

Agreed!

Why not an IG novel fighting against the Tau? An Adeptus Mechanicus focused novel or an novel much like Double Eagle by Dan Abnett.