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Novice painters should just start armies that are easy to paint if painting means more then playing. Then move on to more challenging armies when they feel they are ready.

You never get better unless you challenge yourself, the more detail the better the quality model, IMO. And with the price we pay for those GW models, they should be very detailed.

Brother SRM wrote:

GalacticDefender wrote:
No. The cake is a lie.

It's almost 2012, Portal cake jokes are about 3 and a half years past their expiration date

In my earlier post here I was pretty happy with highly detailed minis. I still am, to tell you the truth. But after a whole day painting Khorne Berserkers, I can't help but agree with Ailaros that a lot of the details (on that kit in particular) just serve to clutter up an otherwise good design. There's so much more kibble on these guys than I thought there would be, especially given the age of the models,

COMBUSTABLE LEMONS.

cheexsta wroteMasochistic, even.

Heh-heh, that's the bunny. Unless I want the pain to extend to my b/f as he has to put up with me....

Sanchez01 wrote Novice painters should just start armies that are easy to paint if painting means more then playing. Then move on to more challenging armies when they feel they are ready.

I entirely disagree. It's fairly academic cos whilst there are a good few collectors who just love to paint and have little inclinination to play at all, they are a vast minority.

I know what teenage girl who wouldn't look at a marine but paints every commissar she can get her hands on - and paints them well.

You gotta paint what appeals to you.

I do agree about the challenge. There are some models I look at, consider painting, run off screamining into the night, then come back to groaning and grumbling about, then end up rather please about how they turned out.

Except terrain. Takes me months. Stupid buildings.

See, terrain doesn't take me long but I can't be arsed to paint it. It's honestly just drybrushing but I can't bring myself to bring those big ol' buildings out onto my little painting table.

I'm painting and putting in lots of detail. We have a 'grand plan'. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It'll be beautiful when it's finished. In like the year 2058.

Tip for the Basilica: don't choose a scheme, no matter how cool, that means painting each skull individually. There are 898 skulls just on the outside. I think I've painted about 600 of those so far.

I think that detail is good, when done right. Clutter is just bad on a model and alot of newer models just look like clutter to me... SM's have way to much bling on them now a days.

To GW, Skulls do not improve the wow factor, skulls plastered on everthing are not cool, they should just change there name to SkullzWorkshop and be done with it.

But hey what do I know im just random internet dude #6423684.

And to GalacticDefender (in a tommy chong voice) "Daves not here man" sorry had to do it.

Thanks for the responses.

Sanchez01 wrote:Novice painters should just start armies that are easy to paint if painting means more then playing. Then move on to more challenging armies when they feel they are ready.

You never get better unless you challenge yourself, the more detail the better the quality model, IMO. And with the price we pay for those GW models, they should be very detailed.

I am definitely not a novice painter, like I mentioned before i have 4 large armies i have painted myself. The issue has nothing to do with skill level, but more so the more current non marine models they have been releasing that are becoming extremely complex and detailed.

The annihilation barge is smaller than a rhino, I can paint up a decent rhino in almost no time at all. I have been painting this annihilation barge for 8 hours and am unhappy with the progress. The model has so many parts and sections that simply cannot be skipped over because the model will be incomplete and those sections simply don't show up if not properly painted.

I assume i have another 5-7 hours of paint left on the model. Here are some photos of the progress. My apologies they were taken on my phone...

Dave-c

I am definitely not a novice painter

I am Sorry, I didn't mean you. I was talking in general, and past experiences. I see what you mean now with the barge. To me that looks fun, I know we all ain't alike, but that's part of the challenge I love to take on.

CadianCommander

I entirely disagree. It's fairly academic cos whilst there are a good few collectors who just love to paint and have little inclinination to play at all, they are a vast minority.
I know what teenage girl who wouldn't look at a marine but paints every commissar she can get her hands on - and paints them well.
You gotta paint what appeals to you.
I do agree about the challenge. There are some models I look at, consider painting, run off screamining into the night, then come back to groaning and grumbling about, then end up rather please about how they turned out.
Except terrain. Takes me months. Stupid buildings.

I love to paint more then play, heresy to some i know, but its just how I feel. For me I like to take small steps, and I encourage small steps because I have failed biting more then I can chew before.
I have that ADD too, I try paining my one playable IG army, but then I start paining another IG army, or eldar, chaos, orks... I have so many different things going on at once because every army have a different style that looks better on it, and I try to learn as much as I can... If I wasn't stuck in afghan right now i would be back on marines trying that non metallic metal... idk, i'm crazy i guess.

Dude, out of all the terrain i own, I painted only one there is no fun in it for me

Brother SRM wrote:

GalacticDefender wrote:
No. The cake is a lie.

It's almost 2012, Portal cake jokes are about 3 and a half years past their expiration date

I used to like detailed minis then I took an arrow in the knee

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I used to get really intimated by very detailed mini's but it has helped me become a much better painter over the years so more detail please.

RAVEN 97 wrote:I do raven guard, so if i spray them black they look alright, but some models are to detailed. Some tyranids are quite
detailed, but with orks its just quantity

The irony is that there is actually a lot more details on an ork model than a marine.

Tarkand wrote:

The irony is that there is actually a lot more details on an ork model than a marine.

As someone that's recently completed a 30-man and 20-man boy squad in addition to having over 9k in painted Black Templars, I heartily agree with this statement.

Leather straps and buckles all OVER the place on those darn orks.

The_Happy_Pig wrote:As much as I love the models, I'd never get a Death Korps of Krieg army for this very reason (tiny, tiny buttons, on tiny, tiny brocaded cloth).

I imagine my eyes would start bleeding after an hour of painting.

If you truly paint to the scale you would not be painting all of these details anyway. For 28mm it is the detail that is actually visible from about, what, 30 feet away? Buttons blend in to the overall coat color from that distance. If your eyes are bleeding it would then be your own fault.

Have a friend who paints an ornate cobra/fist combo logo on all of his *Epic* scale chaos marines and then he can't figure out why it takes him so long to his minis painted...hahahahahahahaha

Skriker

I kinda agree with op. Cough Splutter sag