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Nah, just give it an entire infantry company. You can't destroy a titan if you can't get within a mile of it because six platoons have decided to walk in its shadow.

-Loki- wrote:

Massaen wrote:I have faced one in a 5k per side apocalypse event about 12 months ago. My eldar force wasted it in a single turn of combat.

Tabled him in 45 mins total.

He said the tactic we used was very clever (involved flank march and my phantom titan) but in a straight up fight we would never do it... so we played again... and did it the old fashioned (and much harder) way.

This is the only realistic way of beating one. Flank march something big and scary behind it at close range and let rip. In a frontal assault, it will take far, far more than 4000 points to take an Imperator down.

actually the reason why we flank marched the phantom was to lock it up in assault where the emperor could not fire from.

And if you read the post i made - we did indeed destroy it the old fashioned way... with a phantom and revenant

Vasarto wrote:The perfect escort for one of those?

Bjorn the fell handed with Inquisitor Karamazov. A bunch of Purifiers lead by both Logan Grimnar and Draigo and a combination of fifty Wolf guard terminators with SS and Paladins with one other titan of various kinds on the frong back and left and right sides with maybe a couple of thunder hawks flying above it.

Yeah...That should be sufficient for protection!

Yeah knight titans were great at escorting emperors.

As usual for Titans, the Imperator was roughly 1/700 scale in a system that was largely around 1/350, meaning that it would be hard for even a single Epic-scale Terminator to fit inside the model's head. Since most 40K-scale Imperators are based on scaling up the Epic model without realising it's half the size it should be, they tend to replicate this. Needless to say, the price was correctly scaled to the Imperator's size in the fluff.

Thought this might help with the confusion... and explain why the Manchester model is almost dead on.

where did you get that, because I have the epic scale emperor and it is not off scale. You can use a marine and put it by the stairs/toes, it looks fine like he could climb up them. Yeah it looks like it would be a tight fit, but it would be a tight fit to put 10 of the epic marines in an epic rhino.

So if I wanted to build a emperator than how tall is it gonna need to be? 3 feet or 8 feet tall?

Andrew1975 wrote:where did you get that, because I have the epic scale emperor and it is not off scale. You can use a marine and put it by the stairs/toes, it looks fine like he could climb up them. Yeah it looks like it would be a tight fit, but it would be a tight fit to put 10 of the epic marines in an epic rhino.

"The Imperator was one of the two showcase Titans for the Epic expansion Titan Legions, which aimed to take the system back to its Adeptus Titanicus roots of having small numbers of really expensive models battle it out rather than large numbers of dirt-cheap plastic infantry and tanks. Coming in the heyday of the Second Edition "moar rules = bettar" design philosophy, the Imperator came in a box with roughly half a dead forest's worth of cards, counters and rules and featured an insidiously complicated double-sided datacard for the player to perpetrate accountancy on every turn with plasma tokens and garrison troops and a whole load of other gak that made firing a conversion beamer in Second Edition seem simple by comparison.

As usual for Titans, the Imperator was roughly 1/700 scale in a system that was largely around 1/350, meaning that it would be hard for even a single Epic-scale Terminator to fit inside the model's head. Since most 40K-scale Imperators are based on scaling up the Epic model without realising it's half the size it should be, they tend to replicate this. Needless to say, the price was correctly scaled to the Imperator's size in the fluff. "

Take this into acount when you scale up your Titan.

Ribon Fox wrote:

Andrew1975 wrote:where did you get that, because I have the epic scale emperor and it is not off scale. You can use a marine and put it by the stairs/toes, it looks fine like he could climb up them. Yeah it looks like it would be a tight fit, but it would be a tight fit to put 10 of the epic marines in an epic rhino.

"The Imperator was one of the two showcase Titans for the Epic expansion Titan Legions, which aimed to take the system back to its Adeptus Titanicus roots of having small numbers of really expensive models battle it out rather than large numbers of dirt-cheap plastic infantry and tanks. Coming in the heyday of the Second Edition "moar rules = bettar" design philosophy, the Imperator came in a box with roughly half a dead forest's worth of cards, counters and rules and featured an insidiously complicated double-sided datacard for the player to perpetrate accountancy on every turn with plasma tokens and garrison troops and a whole load of other gak that made firing a conversion beamer in Second Edition seem simple by comparison.

As usual for Titans, the Imperator was roughly 1/700 scale in a system that was largely around 1/350, meaning that it would be hard for even a single Epic-scale Terminator to fit inside the model's head. Since most 40K-scale Imperators are based on scaling up the Epic model without realising it's half the size it should be, they tend to replicate this. Needless to say, the price was correctly scaled to the Imperator's size in the fluff. "

Take this into acount when you scale up your Titan.

Especially given how Emperor-class troop capacities were a hell of a lot larger than a measly ten SM in books like the Word Bearers series.

I've heard that a scale titan should be 6ft tall...

Six foot would be about right for the Warmonger class, seven to seven and a half foot for the Imperator would be my estermit Ever way it would be HUGE... hay I got an idea, get one of them manquins from a clothes shop, duct tape cardbord boxes on it and just call that an Imperator

I had the idea of going to gamesday as a emperor titan once...

Ribon Fox wrote:

Andrew1975 wrote:where did you get that, because I have the epic scale emperor and it is not off scale. You can use a marine and put it by the stairs/toes, it looks fine like he could climb up them. Yeah it looks like it would be a tight fit, but it would be a tight fit to put 10 of the epic marines in an epic rhino.

"The Imperator was one of the two showcase Titans for the Epic expansion Titan Legions, which aimed to take the system back to its Adeptus Titanicus roots of having small numbers of really expensive models battle it out rather than large numbers of dirt-cheap plastic infantry and tanks. Coming in the heyday of the Second Edition "moar rules = bettar" design philosophy, the Imperator came in a box with roughly half a dead forest's worth of cards, counters and rules and featured an insidiously complicated double-sided datacard for the player to perpetrate accountancy on every turn with plasma tokens and garrison troops and a whole load of other gak that made firing a conversion beamer in Second Edition seem simple by comparison.

As usual for Titans, the Imperator was roughly 1/700 scale in a system that was largely around 1/350, meaning that it would be hard for even a single Epic-scale Terminator to fit inside the model's head. Since most 40K-scale Imperators are based on scaling up the Epic model without realising it's half the size it should be, they tend to replicate this. Needless to say, the price was correctly scaled to the Imperator's size in the fluff. "

Take this into acount when you scale up your Titan.

Yeah but what is your source here? You can say it's that scale but I don't see it. I have an emperor titan and it doesn't look out of scale with infantry. I can use the toes/stairs for comparison. It's no more out of scale than any or the epic scale minis, the infantry were always too big to fit in their transports. Are you getting this from an actual source?

The Imperator was ment to be able to carry what, 50 stormtroopers or some thing like that in each fracking leg as well as a host of ad mech and servertors to keep it running and your tellling me it looks right in scale...lol...

Ribon Fox wrote:The Imperator was ment to be able to carry what, 50 stormtroopers or some thing like that in each fracking leg as well as a host of ad mech and servertors to keep it running and your tellling me it looks right in scale...lol...

Point. The legs on those models would not be able to hold anywhere near the troop capacity implied in the first Word Bearers novel, by the looks of things.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Ribon Fox wrote:The Imperator was ment to be able to carry what, 50 stormtroopers or some thing like that in each fracking leg as well as a host of ad mech and servertors to keep it running and your tellling me it looks right in scale...lol...

Point. The legs on those models would not be able to hold anywhere near the troop capacity implied in the first Word Bearers novel, by the looks of things.

None of the vehicles in epic (nor 40k by the way) could hold the proper number of troops. What I'm saying is the infantry were one scale and the vehicles were a different scale. So titan scales should still all be the same, so the emperor should be bigger than a warlord, but not 3 times the size.

A warlord is much smaller than a emperor...in Titanicus by Dan Abnett it took about...10-11 warlord titans to take out 1 Emperor class titan...it took out nearly as much on it's own...

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Ribon Fox wrote:The Imperator was ment to be able to carry what, 50 stormtroopers or some thing like that in each fracking leg as well as a host of ad mech and servertors to keep it running and your tellling me it looks right in scale...lol...

Point. The legs on those models would not be able to hold anywhere near the troop capacity implied in the first Word Bearers novel, by the looks of things.

The Dies Irae was actually specifically mentioned as being particularly large for an Imperator.

The best escort to an Emperor Titan is about 5,000 points of guardsmen. You'll never reach melta range.

-Loki- wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Ribon Fox wrote:The Imperator was ment to be able to carry what, 50 stormtroopers or some thing like that in each fracking leg as well as a host of ad mech and servertors to keep it running and your tellling me it looks right in scale...lol...

Point. The legs on those models would not be able to hold anywhere near the troop capacity implied in the first Word Bearers novel, by the looks of things.

The Dies Irae was actually specifically mentioned as being particularly large for an Imperator.

And currently is stated to be around 43 meters tall, which is smaller than the scale the Emperor Titan datasheets portray them as.

I believe an Emperor titan is supposed to have a small city on its back isn't it? That monstrously big one looks a bit too small

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

-Loki- wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Ribon Fox wrote:The Imperator was ment to be able to carry what, 50 stormtroopers or some thing like that in each fracking leg as well as a host of ad mech and servertors to keep it running and your tellling me it looks right in scale...lol...

Point. The legs on those models would not be able to hold anywhere near the troop capacity implied in the first Word Bearers novel, by the looks of things.

The Dies Irae was actually specifically mentioned as being particularly large for an Imperator.

And currently is stated to be around 43 meters tall, which is smaller than the scale the Emperor Titan datasheets portray them as.

Also, the Dies Irae does not feature in the Word Bearers series. The Emperor-class there is a Loyalist.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

-Loki- wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Ribon Fox wrote:The Imperator was ment to be able to carry what, 50 stormtroopers or some thing like that in each fracking leg as well as a host of ad mech and servertors to keep it running and your tellling me it looks right in scale...lol...

Point. The legs on those models would not be able to hold anywhere near the troop capacity implied in the first Word Bearers novel, by the looks of things.

The Dies Irae was actually specifically mentioned as being particularly large for an Imperator.

And currently is stated to be around 43 meters tall, which is smaller than the scale the Emperor Titan datasheets portray them as.

Also, the Dies Irae does not feature in the Word Bearers series. The Emperor-class there is a Loyalist.

Yep, Dies Irae is a traitor titan. IIRC from reading about it in the Horus Heresy series that they didn't have the castles on the back so unless they put castles on the back for its current height it would be smaller than the one in the datasheet. Also, 4000 points for the titan is fairly cheap IMO because unless you have enough super heavies/titans of your own this thing will easily kill more than 4,000 points

Bongo_clive wrote: I believe an Emperor titan is supposed to have a small city on its back isn't it? That monstrously big one looks a bit too small

No, just no. It has Gun bastions and a psychic temple area to protect it from psychic attack and mounting for a defense laser. But it's not like is has a craftworld on its back with regular citizens running around. It's not Macross.

Bongo_clive wrote: I believe an Emperor titan is supposed to have a small city on its back isn't it? That monstrously big one looks a bit too small

Not quite a city, a city block? Yes that would be more like it. It would meed to be with all this lot in it


Thats not counting the ones keeping it running.

That is what I remmber. 30 guys per leg in epic, that seams quite feasible really when you put a rhino that is supposed to hold 10 next to it. Even the the 40K data sheet shows for size comparison the thing is about 4 warhounds tall. That would but it at about 40 inches. I'd go at much as 4 feet.

I think you should dress yourself in cardboard.and some nerf guns. Then Bam! your very own titan!

I just got the answer from GW. Emperator is 6 ft tall and shoulders is about 3-4 feet in width and about two feet tall because of the cathedral on top.

As far as how to make the guns and what each arm and leg look like exactly. I have no clue! But I will continue to do some
research.

Vasarto wrote:I just got the answer from GW. Emperator is 6 ft tall and shoulders is about 3-4 feet in width and about two feet tall because of the cathedral on top.

As far as how to make the guns and what each arm and leg look like exactly. I have no clue! But I will continue to do some
research.

What do you mean you got the answer from GW?

Gl

I would make the titan between the height of a 5th grader(4ft) and 6ft.

Is it just me or does 102 models seem low for something of that size to transport? And what about the towers ontop of the titan? something shouldb e able to go there, or have a launch bay and be able to carry vehicals, maybe valks/ storm ravens/ alnd speeders. A lower door to house tanks. Something more reasonable than 102 models.