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You should get a job at McDowell's (home of the Big Mick and Golden Arcs) and find a cheap apartment to live in.

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When you ask someone how to tip be sure to also ask them if they've ever waited tables or tended bar. If they have, you should politely nod while internally humming the Mario brothers song as they speak. There's no need to listen and it's probably best if you don't. Also, be aware that this conversation could potentially last for hours. Avoid asking questions or making comments.

My own custom as to tipping is 10% for acceptable service and 15% for good service at lunch unless it's a nicer restaurant then just 15%. At dinner, the same rules apply in the amounts of 15% and 20%. All approximate, of course, although generosity is favorable considering the amount in variance should be quite small. As others have mentioned, the real key is to avoid leaving change -- only leave change when the service is insulting and you want to insult the waitsatff back. But consider that this is rather petty. Dropping any dinner tip to 10% or lower is appropriate for poor service, generously measured. Not leaving any tip is not so bad as leaving change but is generally only acceptable for the (next to) worst situations.

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sebster wrote:Yeah, sorry going to Washington DC, not Washington state.

Good to hear the museums and sites in the capitol are as good as I've been told by some other people, I love that kind of stuff. And, well, the future Mrs Sebster will have to learn to love it

Soho is good, then? I don't mind doing the things that tourists do, as I've pretty much gotten over my 'can't be just like a tourist' thing, and figure that's what I am, might as well enjoy it

Cheers for the tip on the museum of Natural History in New York, LordofHats. We've kind of only thought of Washington in terms of all that stuff, but there'd be plenty in New York too. Is the Guggenheim worth the trip?

And yeah, shuma, we're pretty spoiled for beaches. In fact it's kind of funny whenever people I know go overseas and come back saying 'so and so beach is so overrated', because we basically do have the best beaches in the world. And not just Australia in general, but specifically the south west of Western Australia, they're simply incredible. And I don't even like the beach

Ahtman, we've booked a night's stay in a little town outside of the Grand Canyon, just so we can see the sunrise over it. Other than that to be honest I'm not really sure on the time frame, I think we head off to Bryce or Zion national parks.

Is it practical to stop off while travelling from Washington DC to NY? We've got Amtrak tickets and other places I've travelled have had options to get on and get off as you please, while others have been a booking for specific seat on a specific train. I would like to see Philadelphia and the historic Revolution sights.

I heard New Orleans hadn't really recovered from Katrina. I'd like to go, the food always appealed.

I've never heard of the Redwoods. I'll look them up tonight. We've got a spare day in San Fran, but no car booked there. if we can get a bus tour or something out there I'm sure the future Mrs Seb would love it.


Oh, and could someone please explain tipping. People here have been explaining it, but everyone tells a different story. Is it 10%, and 15% if it's good?


Tipping: Give somewhere between 10 and 20 percent based on how the service was. If it was average they get 15, if it was subpar they get 10 (if it was really bad give even less), if it was one of the best servers ever, they get 20. This of course assumes that you are at a sit-down type place,with a waiter that takes your order and brings your food to you and comes again to make sure youre enjoying your meal and to see if you want more to drink, etc. Pretty much what Auston said




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There are also restaurants these days where you stand in line to place and pay for your order and then someone will bring it to you once you have found a seat. Some of these place have tip jars or a space to leave a tip on credit card receipts. It is not necessary to tip in these cases. I also don't tip at Chinese buffets (what service?) but they also proffer per credit card receipt.


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Oh but do tip a pizza delivery person, always 10%.

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The north-east is very very good. Did a battlefield tour of British victories last summer and enjoyed the clam chowder soup. Maine is a very scenic place.

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so if i was going to do a bucket list of places or things to see in the us i think it would be a bit like this.

go see Alcatraz
visit Yellowstone
win or lose some money in Vegas
go see the Grand Canyon
take a Pink Jeep tour in Sedona

eat a giant steak in Texas
take a fanboat ride in the Everglades
spend some time in DC checking out the museums/monuments
check out Fort McKenry in Baltamore, or the aquarium or the USS Constitution
eat a cheesesteak in Philly
go a bit to the NE and take the Hershey Chocolate factory tour (riding the rides at the amusement park or taking a chocolate bath are optional)
hit up NY and see the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island and Wall Street
go get wet at Niagra Falls

thats about all i can think of at the moment. unless you stop at Disney World/Land....

 
   
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Manchu wrote:Oh but do tip a pizza delivery person, always 10%.

I disagree with the tipping delivery guy on a fixed percentage. It works in restaurants, because nicer restaurants charge more, but also provide more people that get a cut of the tip (bussboy, bread guy, Sommelier, head waiter, assistant waiter, guy who does the flambe, etc). And, they cover fewer tables. So, you need to scale up the raw amount tipped at about the same level price increases.

But, a delivery guy is always doing roughly the same amount of work. The guy bringing me a single small cheese pizza isn't doing less for me than the guy bringing me 4 extra-large pizzas with all the toppings. So, they should both get tipped the same amount. That means the first example gets tipped at like 20-30%, where the second guy gets tipped at like 3-4%. But, they both get a couple of dollars for the same amount of work.

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As you can see in this thread, tipping is all over the place. I've been to all of these places you are mentioning, great choices!

First off, LAX sucks. You have to take a tram between the international and domestic terminal- but have to find it, first. There are no signs. The terminals are miserable. Seriously, if you can change your flight to land in SFO, do it. SFO is incredibly nice, clean, simple, friendly. I will never travel internationally through LAX again if I can help it.

Tipping- In my experience, being generous goes over much better than being miserly. Also, "generous" vs. "miserly" depends on the area of the country for % or amount given. No matter what, if you aren't sure or mess up, don't worry too much about it. Most folks in service industries in tourist areas know it is crazy complex and generally roll with it. You can always ask another patron nearby, though you risk getting answers from someone with an agenda.

To keep things simple, a pretty good shortcut is -

- When order is taken and served by someone and you are occupying a seat in an establishment, 15-20% of food and bev, excluding tax. Usually you can double or triple the tax and that is your tip (double in Cali, triple in Maryland, for example, due to tax rate differences). If you get alcohol at the table and it is all billed at once, its tipped there. If you close your bar tab before being seated, see below.

- Bar- you've gotten good guidance, but I keep it simple at about $1-$2 if buying one drink and paying cash, lean toward $2 if you're hanging out for a while. Better tips = better service (generally). i try to treat my bartenders really well... many times you find your drinks run a little stronger if so. If I run a tab an pay out at the end, I generally do 20-25% of drink total if I'd had an incredible service, less if service was crap.

- Beware the little ubiquitous tip jars. These are little jars near a register that have a cute little saying or something along those lines asking for tips. These are completely voluntary. Counter staff that just hand you your food are not generally tipped but they put the jars out anyway - it isn't required but if you want to give them a little smile, do so. If someone is extraordinarily personable and kind, or has been very helpful, or I am a regular, I try to drop a dollar or two, but for everyday normal purchases, no.

- Porters and such that assist with luggage, open doors, hail a cab, pump your gas, all vary. I've had guys get insulted when I've tipped for pumping gas, but usually for these folks, a dollar to five or so depending on the circumstance. The more effort they had to go through, the more the tip. Usually for baggage handling, couple dollars per bag or so.

- Hotel staff - if you are staying for a couple of days in the same place, hotel maids really, really appreciate a few dollars being left when you leave a relatively clean room or more if the room is a disaster ($5 - $7, more if I spilled something or anything obnoxious). Not really common or consistently done, but can be worth it. I've found that doing so, every once in a while I'll end up with extra goodies and little special touches for service. Usually I leave the tip prominently on a nightstand or table surface with a note saying Thank you, so they know it is for them. Also, when you check in, let them know you are on your honeymoon. Sometimes hotels will do something nice to make your stay special.

Places to go -

DC - be aware that food on the Mall (where most museums are located) can be hard to find, unless you want street vendor food or want to dine within the museums (food is hit or miss). Several museums do have food - I like the Natural History Museum. I suggest having portable snacks and such because the walking distances are not bad, but it is a bit spread out. It is an absolute treat to walk the full length of the mall and see all the monuments. Don't miss out on the Iwo Jima monument and Arlington Cemetery (though that one was rough for us - very solemn and sobering). You'll have to have your bags searched when entering museums, so just be prepared. The lighter the travel the easier it all goes. Smile and be friendly to the guards - they have horrible jobs with incredible responsibility, just to be treated like gak or ignored. A smile, nod and saying thanks is always a good idea.

If you go on the White House tour - you cannot bring in ANY food or drink. Just keep in mind if you pack along snacks or such.

A great place to eat is ChurchKey in DC. Good food, great service, and an absolutely amazing number of beers on tap. That is only if you and the soon-to-be-missus enjoy sampling beer. There are any number of amazing food places throughout DC... Ben's Chili Bowl is well known.

Get to know and love the DC metro. It is awesome.

Cali - In San Fran, there are redwoods across the Golden Gate from the city. Golden Gate Park is gorgeous, as is the Palace of Fine Arts. Food is amazing and wines out of this world. Ghirardelli Square was a blast last time we went - we hung out in a wine tasting shop for hours - Wattle Creek Winery. Really fun staff, good wine. We signed up for a year's wine club by the time we were done, then went and bought a bunch of chocolate at the Ghirardelli store. If you can go on a wine tour up to Sonoma/Napa do it - or take a car. We found the best wineries were the little places off the main road - more ambiance and friendliness.

Sourdough bread... /drool/ Boudin Bakery is famous for good reason. They have a store in the airport and also an amazing store in the city. Go to China town, too. Incredible food. We asked around and got a place the locals eat - was well worth it. We got Peking duck out of a window, too, and brought it back to the hotel room. Delish.

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Also, if you go into a Coldstone (ice cream shop), make sure not to tip. If you do leave a tip (at any amount), the employees are required to do a song and dance. It's really horrifying for both the patrons and the employees.

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Hey, you're coming to NY. That's awesome. I'd definitely hit up the Museum of Natural History, which is probably my favorite place in NY. MOMA is also not too shabby and I'm not really into art.

Should also drop by Times Square at some point; whenever you see NY in a movie 99% of the time they either show that or Central Park.

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Grakmar wrote:Also, if you go into a Coldstone (ice cream shop), make sure not to tip. If you do leave a tip (at any amount), the employees are required to do a song and dance. It's really horrifying for both the patrons and the employees.


I always tell them the requirement to get the tip is to not sing and dance.

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check out the sex museum in NYC

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sebster wrote:We're starting out in San Francisco (after sitting in an LA airport for as little time as possible), and heading out to Alcatraz and into Yellowstone, but other than that we've got nothing planned for the four days.


So you'll be in or near Montana? If you get the chance, check out Glacier National Park as well as Yellowstone. It's probably worth spending the day there to do a little hiking and such. It's less of a "drive through and enjoy" style park than Yellowstone, but depending on the time of year, the Going to the Sun highway might be open.

Glacier is about 400 miles away from Yellowstone, but that's only about 7 hours worth of driving (a short-mid length trip for Montana).

If that is too far, the Little Big Horn Battlefield is about 230 miles from Yellowstone.

If you are just looking to explore, pretty much anywhere in western Montana (from the western border of the state to the Rocky Mountains) is lovely country to soak-in.

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You're not coming to Alaska? Shame.

Well, I can't really advise all that much since I have only been to Yellowstone and DC out of your list. Still, there are some pretty cool museums in DC and Yellowstone is obviously an awesome place. I mean that literally. Make sure you see the geysers, even though they do smell horrible.

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They have to dance too!? Locally they just sing!

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sebster wrote:We're starting out in San Francisco (after sitting in an LA airport for as little time as possible), and heading out to Alcatraz and into Yellowstone, but other than that we've got nothing planned for the four days.


So you'll be in or near Montana? If you get the chance, check out Glacier National Park as well as Yellowstone. It's probably worth spending the day there to do a little hiking and such. It's less of a "drive through and enjoy" style park than Yellowstone, but depending on the time of year, the Going to the Sun highway might be open.

Glacier is about 400 miles away from Yellowstone, but that's only about 7 hours worth of driving (a short-mid length trip for Montana).

If that is too far, the Little Big Horn Battlefield is about 230 miles from Yellowstone.

If you are just looking to explore, pretty much anywhere in western Montana (from the western border of the state to the Rocky Mountains) is lovely country to soak-in.
I would normally have made the same recommendation but he seems to be headed south, I suppose he could fly into Jackson hole, rent a car drive through Teton, Yellowstone, Big Horn, and Glacier and fly to Vegas...that seems awful spendy though.

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Hmm... You sure he didn't confuse Yellowstone and Yosemite? If you do go to Yellowstone, I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend driving through the East Gate/Entrance. Either to enter the park (we drove from Sheridan, Wyoming) or to exit (drive towards Sheridan). If you drive out from the park, drive out to Cody and that will get you what I considered to be the most beautiful segment of that trip. Its about an hours drive IIRC but its definitely worth it (I am supremely jealous of the people that have homes in that area), we actually found that part of the drive to be more scenic and awe-inspiring than Yellowstone itself. If you go an additional hour or so out of Cody (towards Sheridan, again the time is IIRC) you can drive through the mountains via Bighorn National Forest which is likewise incredibly beautiful (and also was enjoyed more than Yellowstone itself).

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LordofHats wrote:The redwoods are the huge trees, some of the largest in the world. Here's a pic:



Got to see that. Magnificent. I'll look for tours tonight.

There's so much stuff around DC alone. Antietam, Manassas, Annapolis. New York state has West Point! The Army Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Grounds have some amazing stuff, but unfortunately is too far out of the way from DC to actually visit (if it was still there *cries*). Really hoping they don't scrap that Nashorn, its the only one left


I'm doing pretty well dragging the future Mrs Sebster to one civil war site, I think a second bus trip out to a war site would be pushing things


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dogma wrote:Also, you're not generally expected to include drinks in the total cost of the bill when determining how large the tip should be. Though unless you intend on getting smashed with the missus, its seems like more mental math than is necessary.


Okay, hadn't been told that. Cheers.


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dogma wrote:While you're in New York definitely stop off at the USS Intrepid Museum. It not only has lots of cool militaria, you'll have the opportunity to stand on the very same flight deck that was once graced by Nicholas Cage.

Another cool one is the Hornet in Alameda, this one also allows you to do your best Chekov impersonation. Also, the Hornet has a bunch of stuff from Apollo 11 and 12 because it recovered both capsules.


Awesome. I'll definitely get out to both.

I would tell you to indulge in the seafood in San Francisco, but considering where you're from it won't be anything novel (though still good). Instead, one of things that California does best is Latin/Asian fusion food. Look out for things like Korean barbecue tacos, torta/bahn mi hybrids, and that sort of stuff.


Food here has gone really downhill really quickly. Not Australia in general, which has restaurants to match the world, but just here in Perth, which is generally overpriced and underwhelming across the board. I'm looking forward to San Francisco seafood quite a bit.


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deathholydeath wrote:N.O. Has pretty much recovered from Katrina at this point. The french quarter, the warehouse district, and the garden district are the same as they've always been for the most part. Other areas of the city are growing again as well. I make trips there fairly frequently year round. It's pretty much up to speed again.


Hmm, it was part of our early planning, before we were told it hadn't recovered. Annoying.


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Good to see someone got the reference

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Deathklaat wrote:thats about all i can think of at the moment. unless you stop at Disney World/Land....


We've got a fair bit off that list of yours, so that's cool. We're not really Disney World kind of people.


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Gymnogyps wrote:First off, LAX sucks. You have to take a tram between the international and domestic terminal- but have to find it, first. There are no signs. The terminals are miserable. Seriously, if you can change your flight to land in SFO, do it. SFO is incredibly nice, clean, simple, friendly. I will never travel internationally through LAX again if I can help it.


That was our plan, originally, but the QANTAS flight direct to San Francisco got cancelled late last year, annoyingly enough.

Tipping- In my experience, being generous goes over much better than being miserly. Also, "generous" vs. "miserly" depends on the area of the country for % or amount given. No matter what, if you aren't sure or mess up, don't worry too much about it. Most folks in service industries in tourist areas know it is crazy complex and generally roll with it. You can always ask another patron nearby, though you risk getting answers from someone with an agenda.


That's good advice. I'm mostly worried about forgetting to tip and accidentally screwing someone over, to be honest.

- Bar- you've gotten good guidance, but I keep it simple at about $1-$2 if buying one drink and paying cash, lean toward $2 if you're hanging out for a while. Better tips = better service (generally). i try to treat my bartenders really well... many times you find your drinks run a little stronger if so. If I run a tab an pay out at the end, I generally do 20-25% of drink total if I'd had an incredible service, less if service was crap.


Yeah, when I was in Warsaw I got chatting the barman about Gin, and offered him one to share with me. Man did he give me some decent serves after that.

- Porters and such that assist with luggage, open doors, hail a cab, pump your gas, all vary. I've had guys get insulted when I've tipped for pumping gas, but usually for these folks, a dollar to five or so depending on the circumstance. The more effort they had to go through, the more the tip. Usually for baggage handling, couple dollars per bag or so.


Okay, good to know.

- Hotel staff - if you are staying for a couple of days in the same place, hotel maids really, really appreciate a few dollars being left when you leave a relatively clean room or more if the room is a disaster ($5 - $7, more if I spilled something or anything obnoxious). Not really common or consistently done, but can be worth it. I've found that doing so, every once in a while I'll end up with extra goodies and little special touches for service. Usually I leave the tip prominently on a nightstand or table surface with a note saying Thank you, so they know it is for them. Also, when you check in, let them know you are on your honeymoon. Sometimes hotels will do something nice to make your stay special.


Ah, hadn't even thought of tipping them. Cheers.

Places to go -

A great place to eat is ChurchKey in DC. Good food, great service, and an absolutely amazing number of beers on tap. That is only if you and the soon-to-be-missus enjoy sampling beer. There are any number of amazing food places throughout DC... Ben's Chili Bowl is well known.


Duly noted. And oh yes we love sampling beer. We get your mainstream beers over here in Oz and, well, they suck, but I've heard you've got an excellent range of boutique breweries.

Cali - In San Fran, there are redwoods across the Golden Gate from the city. Golden Gate Park is gorgeous, as is the Palace of Fine Arts. Food is amazing and wines out of this world. Ghirardelli Square was a blast last time we went - we hung out in a wine tasting shop for hours - Wattle Creek Winery. Really fun staff, good wine. We signed up for a year's wine club by the time we were done, then went and bought a bunch of chocolate at the Ghirardelli store. If you can go on a wine tour up to Sonoma/Napa do it - or take a car. We found the best wineries were the little places off the main road - more ambiance and friendliness.


Cheers. The future Mrs Sebster is a bit of a wine buff and a trip down into California wine country was the very last thing we had to cut from our trip. I'll tell her about Wattle Creek tonight.

Sourdough bread... /drool/ Boudin Bakery is famous for good reason. They have a store in the airport and also an amazing store in the city. Go to China town, too. Incredible food. We asked around and got a place the locals eat - was well worth it. We got Peking duck out of a window, too, and brought it back to the hotel room. Delish.


Sounds great. Will do.


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Ouze wrote:Hey, you're coming to NY. That's awesome. I'd definitely hit up the Museum of Natural History, which is probably my favorite place in NY. MOMA is also not too shabby and I'm not really into art.


Duly noted, and will definitely attend.

Should also drop by Times Square at some point; whenever you see NY in a movie 99% of the time they either show that or Central Park.


Yeah, it's totally touristy but you just have to do it.


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Will do. I went to one in Prague and it was hilarious.


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IcyCool wrote:So you'll be in or near Montana? If you get the chance, check out Glacier National Park as well as Yellowstone. It's probably worth spending the day there to do a little hiking and such. It's less of a "drive through and enjoy" style park than Yellowstone, but depending on the time of year, the Going to the Sun highway might be open.

Glacier is about 400 miles away from Yellowstone, but that's only about 7 hours worth of driving (a short-mid length trip for Montana).


Problem is we've only got a car for going from Vegas to the Grand Canyon and into Bryce. To get into Yellowstone we're taking a bus tour.


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chaos0xomega wrote:Hmm... You sure he didn't confuse Yellowstone and Yosemite?


Probably, I've already done it a few times. Really confused the travel agent one time

Whichever one has day trips by bus from San Francisco, that's where we're going.

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In DC, go over the river into old-town Alexandria Virginia, There's a great little waterfront restaurant called Chadwicks that has great food, and a cool atmosphere. I would spend a night in Alexandria, there's some really cool stuff, and its great just to walk around down there.


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Oh, and also, Go to the Holocaust museum, Its quite the experience

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Capitansolstice wrote:In DC, go over the river into old-town Alexandria Virginia, There's a great little waterfront restaurant called Chadwicks that has great food, and a cool atmosphere. I would spend a night in Alexandria, there's some really cool stuff, and its great just to walk around down there.


Sounds great, I'll look it up tonight.


Oh, and also, Go to the Holocaust museum, Its quite the experience


I've heard the Holocaust museum is very good, but I'm on my honeymoon And I've already done my world tour of misery (Auschwitz, Nanking, Dresden...)

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Well, In that case... Old town!

 
   
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Capitansolstice wrote:Well, In that case... Old town!


I've just been looking at it on Google. Looks marvellous, and is now added to the itinerary.

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Sebbie, be sure to check the weather in your locations before you go. Its always a good bit cooler in Northern California than other regions. Some interior places may be quite hot (didn't catch when you were going).

Have fun!

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Frazzled wrote:Sebbie, be sure to check the weather in your locations before you go. Its always a good bit cooler in Northern California than other regions. Some interior places may be quite hot (didn't catch when you were going).

Have fun!


Leaving April 18.

Figure we'll buy more clothes as needed, stuff in the US is so much cheaper than it is over here, especially with our crazy high dollar, that we were planning on buying a fair bit of stuff anyway.

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i would agree that Disney was at best..lame.

Universal Studios Orlando and MGM were so much more fun.

While in PA you can also take a tour of the countries oldest brewery (Yuengling) and get some free samples

 
   
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chaos0xomega wrote:Hmm... You sure he didn't confuse Yellowstone and Yosemite?


Probably, I've already done it a few times. Really confused the travel agent one time

Whichever one has day trips by bus from San Francisco, that's where we're going.


Ah, that would be Yosemite then. It's about 200 miles away from San Francisco. Yellowstone is about 1100 miles away. Oh well, you'll still be checking out plenty of the beautiful areas of the US.

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hope you have an awesome trip

if you happen to come across this drink (its in parts of the south, not sure if its reached up to DC) i recommend trying a bottle
Spoiler:

and in your travels, if you happen to have sweet tea, try not to be alarmed if it has so much sugar its gritty, thats now you know its...um...good
   
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Ah yes, and on your way back, don't let any Hawaiian convince you that Spam is good. But, if at all possible, do indulge in a luau.

If a luau isn't possible, at least get some poke.

sebster wrote:
Figure we'll buy more clothes as needed, stuff in the US is so much cheaper than it is over here, especially with our crazy high dollar, that we were planning on buying a fair bit of stuff anyway.


Gone are the days when I could buy a PS1 at a 33% discount.

Ah, childhood.

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Blokus wrote:If you can swing it come to St. Louis. It has the best pizza and the best baseball team.

As for the underlined, Chicago and New York disagree with you.

Chicago has the BEST Pizza in the states, and the Yankees are the best baseball team in the MLB, statistically speaking.

While in DC if you can get to Philadelphia for a day trip it is totally worth it. Independence hall is quite a sight, and Philly has THE BEST Cheesesteaks in the US.

Also I would recommend a trip to Chicago, The skyline, and the Sears Tower (Now called the Willis tower) are well worth the trip just to see Chicago from the Skydeck. http://www.theskydeck.com/
As of 2011, the Willis Tower (formerly the Sears Tower) is the tallest skyscraper in the United States and the seventh-tallest freestanding structure in the world to the antenna and the 9th-tallest building in the world to the roof, with a height of 1,451 feet (442 meters)
Deathklaat wrote:i would agree that Disney was at best..lame.

Universal Studios Orlando and MGM were so much more fun.

Disneyland (In California) is not that great.
Disney World (In Orlando) is huge! and AWESOME!
Disney World includes four theme parks, two water parks, 23 on-site themed resort hotels (excluding eight more that are on-site, but not owned by the Walt Disney Company), including a campground with a mini water park, two spas and physical fitness centers, and five golf courses.

Also if you can get to New Orleans, the French Quarter is well worth it just for the food, I recommend the Crawfish Etouffee from the chartres house cafe, or Remoulade.

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