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ph34r wrote:Holy gak is this thread really happening?

The Blood Talon assembly uses 3 long fingers and one short. The short finger is the hand's "thumb". See pictured Death Company Dreadnought.





Next time please make use of your Eyeballs before flying off the handle.
EDIT: Also, I can't believe how unhelpful everyone was with this apparent mystery. I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

Perhaps he did not know. Some people are not observant.

sub-zero wrote:I recently bought the blood angels furioso dreadnought kit for the purpose of building a Death Company Dread. I plan on running this unit with a pair of blood talons, but I would also like the option to use a pair of blood fists and the magna-grapple if the mood strikes me. Upon assembly of the model I notice that the sprues contain (8) blood fist "fingers" and (6) blood talon "fingers", but the model requires (2) of the blood fist "fingers" to complete the blood talons. Therefore you can only choose one or the other to build!

Really!!! You cheap SOB's couldn't put just 2 more blood fist "finger's" on the sprue!! Don't tell me that there wasn't room, each one is about the size of a maggot!!! And what about the cost?? 2 PIECES OF PLASTIC THAT ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN MOST OF THE SPRUE COULDN'T COST MORE THAN .03 CENTS!!!!! Just one more way GW puts the screw to us as the customer, what do they expect me to do? Buy another $40 model, just for (2) fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rant over!

Hmmm, I;m finding it very hard to feel sad for someone that doesn't have blood talons!

Man alive, go spead 6$ at a bit store or ebay and get two replacement arms with the taloons... yeesh!

I knew someone who flipped out when I told them the trant kit has no wings, but by the time they had enough money for it the new winged one came out.

I demand autocannon arms as well! arrrg rant rave blarg. And how come I don't have enough psycannon bits? I demand more psycannons for my purifiers. Phew, ok rant done. Continue along. Nothing to see here.

sudojoe wrote:I demand autocannon arms as well! arrrg rant rave blarg. And how come I don't have enough psycannon bits? I demand more psycannons for my purifiers. Phew, ok rant done. Continue along. Nothing to see here.

I think Necrons would like a word with you.

I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

One more than I gave it.

But seriously, there are lots of examples of GW not supplying correct/enough/useful bits and bobs with kits, just trade/convert/greenstuff or simply go without.
Unless my tank is missing an actual set of tracks or something it isnt usually a game breaker.
And whilst I acknowledge the OPs frustration, getting a good nights sleep and some perspective will help a lot.

This kid would have hated the old days when the dreadnoughts were all metal and only came with one weapons configuration. If you wanted a missile launcher, you had better have wanted a twin lascannon too, lol.

Just make an extra finger out of plastic card or something, if it really is "the size of a maggot".

Your point being sir?

Thanks for the pic =o]

@op grow up and make your own. Cut some sprue, buy some plastic card. You can afford GW models so you should be able to afford plastic card.

sub-zero wrote:I recently bought the blood angels furioso dreadnought kit for the purpose of building a Death Company Dread. I plan on running this unit with a pair of blood talons, but I would also like the option to use a pair of blood fists and the magna-grapple if the mood strikes me. Upon assembly of the model I notice that the sprues contain (8) blood fist "fingers" and (6) blood talon "fingers", but the model requires (2) of the blood fist "fingers" to complete the blood talons. Therefore you can only choose one or the other to build!

Really!!! You cheap SOB's couldn't put just 2 more blood fist "finger's" on the sprue!! Don't tell me that there wasn't room, each one is about the size of a maggot!!! And what about the cost?? 2 PIECES OF PLASTIC THAT ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN MOST OF THE SPRUE COULDN'T COST MORE THAN .03 CENTS!!!!! Just one more way GW puts the screw to us as the customer, what do they expect me to do? Buy another $40 model, just for (2) fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rant over!

Have you tried clipplin small pieces of sprue to make the extra phalanges you need?

ph34r wrote:Holy gak is this thread really happening?

The Blood Talon assembly uses 3 long fingers and one short. The short finger is the hand's "thumb". See pictured Death Company Dreadnought.





Next time please make use of your Eyeballs before flying off the handle.
EDIT: Also, I can't believe how unhelpful everyone was with this apparent mystery. I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

To be fair, I was 4 posts earlier than you with this info.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:

Really? At least your army's kits have all the options in the box. Cry to a chaos or Sisters player and see what it gets you...

This. I'm making tyranids at the moment and one of the most popular weapons (MC Devourer) only comes in one kit, and typically, 4 are needed per MC. They come 2 to a kit in the kit for the least popular MC.

And you complain about lacking 2 fingers that aren't even necessary.

To be fair, I'm still amazed that we should consider normal for them not to provide all the options for a unit in the box. They often include a bunch of cosmetic accessories and variation, but if you're hoping to get all your weapon options, better not hold your breath...

Ah, when I was young GW redesigned the Epic boxes so instead of $20 they cost $15. The only problem? You only got half the bitz you needed for a full unit!

So yeah, don't whine to me about GW leaving stuff out

ph34r wrote:Holy gak is this thread really happening?

The Blood Talon assembly uses 3 long fingers and one short. The short finger is the hand's "thumb". See pictured Death Company Dreadnought.





Next time please make use of your Eyeballs before flying off the handle.
EDIT: Also, I can't believe how unhelpful everyone was with this apparent mystery. I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

Um.... he's complaining that you cannot make two sets of DCCW hands with one kit. Since each hand takes 4 fingers and the kit comes with 14 fingers. Needing 16 to make two complete sets.

I give your reading comprehension a 3/10.

I do find it odd that they include two sets of the round part the fingers go on and not two sets of fingers to put in said round things.

@Kid K- I remember those days. I remember when the Eldar sets had only 1 model of the really good units (Exarchs, Banshees, Reapers) per sprue. So you got one base worth of models per box. Of course I just put one model on each base and got around that!

@ OP


Please don't pollute this forum with your pointless whining. I mean, you can't use both bloodclaws AND fists? So bloody what! I can't build both deathmarks AND immortals, and I sure as hell don't bitch about it.

why would you want Blood fists on DCD anyway?

WOW, so many hateful responces to this post. LOL Let me clarify a few things, I did not create this topic to "bitch" or "whine" about GW, I was making a point that GW could have included the peices in question, but CHOSE not to. Why? Was it becuase of added expense for two very small peices of plastic, I don't think so. Was it becuase there wasn't enough room on the sprue? No, I don't think that was it either. So that really only leaves one reason as to not include the parts required, and that is pure greed. I'm still going to continue to purchase models from GW, I don't have any other options, that is what's known as a monopoly. Apperantly the laws concerning monopolys are fairly lax in the UK, I don't think we as customers would be subject to these kind of business practices, if GW were a U.S. based company. We actually enforce the laws to prevent the monopoly of a business.

Now, can I use extra sprue or plasticard to make the extra "fingers", yes I can. But the real point is that I shouldn't have to. I spent $40 on two small plastic sprues, the fact that I HAVE to fabricate the peices needed comes of a pure greed by the company that is charging a premium price for a product that they are monopolizing on.


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Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:why would you want Blood fists on DCD anyway?

I want the option. That's all. I just want the ability to chose which one, not be forced into one or the other. y'know?

sub-zero wrote:Now, can I use extra sprue or plasticard to make the extra "fingers", yes I can. But the real point is that I shouldn't have to. I spent $40 on two small plastic sprues, the fact that I HAVE to fabricate the peices needed comes of a pure greed by the company that is charging a premium price for a product that they are monopolizing on.

You gave that business money. Businesses love money.

Seriously - you act like this is newfound knowledge for you. If that's the case, then I'm sorry you're that naive.

It's not that bad... before forgeworld had autocannons for dreads, i bought x2 these:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod20006a

for my 2x dreadnoughts in my GK army...

Where did you get your signature from Sub Z?
Pretty cool.

sub-zero wrote:...enforce the laws to prevent the monopoly of a business.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

GW does not have a monopoly on War Games. You can play Infinity, Warmachine, Brushfire, or any other game you'd like. GW cannot prevent you from purchasing from them.

On to your rant, use the blood claws as DCCW. That's all I've ever seen people use. It's silly, as that's not the point of the dread, but it's your model. Do what you want. Alternatively, you can get a DCCW pretty cheaply on ebay from the Assault on Black Reach model.

However, something you will see with GW is that you don't always get as many of the bits you want. Another example of this is the Power Klaws for Orks. The Nob box only has 3 (I think), when most people would like 5 or more...

sub-zero wrote:WOW, so many hateful responces to this post...I did not create this topic to "bitch" or "whine" about GW...

Unfortunately, that's exaclty what your first post was, which is why you got negative feedback. If you have a complaint about a model and/or packaging, you can do so without coming off so rudely. Calling them "unfair dumbasses" in the title is an example of bitching.


Best of luck, man.

whats worng with runnng them as 3 fingered?

i know GW is not generous with the bitz they include in some boxes (tactical squad, nobz, crons) but then there are some boxes with a ton of extra bits (SM devestators come to mind)

i get why you are annoyed OP it would bug me to but we must soldier on or desert and go play other games its really you decision

kronk wrote:

sub-zero wrote:...enforce the laws to prevent the monopoly of a business.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

GW does not have a monopoly on War Games. You can play Infinity, Warmachine, Brushfire, or any other game you'd like. GW cannot prevent you from purchasing from them.

On to your rant, use the blood claws as DCCW. That's all I've ever seen people use. It's silly, as that's not the point of the dread, but it's your model. Do what you want. Alternatively, you can get a DCCW pretty cheaply on ebay from the Assault on Black Reach model.

However, something you will see with GW is that you don't always get as many of the bits you want. Another example of this is the Power Klaws for Orks. The Nob box only has 3 (I think), when most people would like 5 or more...

sub-zero wrote:WOW, so many hateful responces to this post...I did not create this topic to "bitch" or "whine" about GW...

Unfortunately, that's exaclty what your first post was, which is why you got negative feedback. If you have a complaint about a model and/or packaging, you can do so without coming off so rudely. Calling them "unfair dumbasses" in the title is an example of bitching.


Best of luck, man.

Apperantly, you can't use blood talons as DCCW's, I wish I could though. LOL

zantis wrote: Are we supposed to form an angry mob, get on a plane, and go storm the GW Nottingham HQ to demand better sprue design?

Yes! let's do it! Not that I have any particular hate for GW but the thought of doing something like this for osmething so trivial as a plastic toy soldier company would be hilarious.

Occupy GW!

We wrote:

zantis wrote: Are we supposed to form an angry mob, get on a plane, and go storm the GW Nottingham HQ to demand better sprue design?

Yes! let's do it! Not that I have any particular hate for GW but the thought of doing something like this for osmething so trivial as a plastic toy soldier company would be hilarious.

Occupy GW!

I'm on hotwire.com getting a group rate right now. LOL

@OP

I just cut a lighting claw off from a terminator kit for the extra "thumb" on the blood talons. I magnetized the arms to be able to run Blood Talons or DCCW. I also magnetized the base and the top so it could be carried by a Stormraven (the smoke launcher goes on after it is deployed).

/\ /\ that looks uncomfortable

Yeah, gotta agree with Kronk-you have other game choices. GW is not, and will never be, a monopoly, so long as ANY other war games exist. Get rid of Mantic, PP, Infinity, Malifaux, FOW, Battletech...maybe then GW would be a monopoly. Oh, but wait-you have Avatars of War, Reaper, DnD, Heroclix, Scibor, Chapterhouse, and a ton of others making minis (and games). There's no chance of GW being, or becoming, a monopoly. Because even on the .00000001% chance of all of those companies going under before GW, others will take their places.

And to your original point, we know GW doesn't add in full options, or allow you to make all options in a single kit-it happens. It sucks, but they ARE a company out to make money-you want a blood talon dread and a bloodfist dread? Buy one of each, or custom build the one finger, or get 2 fingers off ebay/swap shop (not everyone uses both sets of hands, you CAN find them). You don't have to give extra money to GW and buy a full kit-it's an option, but you have other options too. GW just hopes some people WILL opt to buy multiple kits. It's not really THAT uncommon for a business.

Hope that info helps a bit. And the [only] reason you got such harsh feedback from everyone was your constant faux-swearing, angry attitude that also had the distinct sound of whining. You portrayed yourself in a negative light, so everyone responded as such. A mature, adult post will garner adult responses (from everyone except the jerks). Post like an 8 year old, and people will respond to the level you set. This isn't a flaming post, it's just a social fact, and I'm trying to make a suggestion to help you avoid similar responses in the future.